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• 04/23/2020 at 3:20 PM #127630
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  Yes that would make sense, more likelihood of clashing orders in a 1 min TF compared to daily or 4 hr. When I decreased the boxsize from 100 to 50 I then got a tbt warning whereas before it hadn’t given me tbt warning during the 100 boxsize test?

  

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  04/23/2020 at 4:29 PM #127649
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  @Vonasi, even just having”dead” optimisation variables for qty and Random left in a system, despite no actual VRT code in the system, makes a difference to the results.
  I just compared the same system today with a screenshot of profit results from a few days ago. The system today has no VRT code as I stripped it out, but it still contained “dead” optimisation settings (Q: 2 to 10and R: 1 to 10) at the top.
  I could not replicate the results today with those from a few days ago? I had to delete the Q and R settings from the optimisation variables window first before the results then matched with those of a few days ago? Any ideas!?

  

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  04/23/2020 at 5:02 PM #127658
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  Bard wrote:

  The question though, is why is the VRT code giving different results compared to a non VRT system with the same code?

  Not sure what you mean and I can’t get anything useful from your screenshot because I don’t have a magnifying glass powerful enough.

  Do you mean that you have a strategy with the VRT code in it but turned off and an identical strategy but with no VRT code in it at all and they return different results? If so then the only answer can be because the strategy part of the code is not identical or the variable settings are not identical or they are being tested on different data samples.

   

  

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  04/23/2020 at 5:08 PM #127661
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  I had to delete the Q and R settings from the optimisation variables window first before the results then matched with those of a few days ago? Any ideas!?

  I don’t recall the variables being called Q and R in the robustness tester – they were Qty and Random – or are you abbreviating? If not then perhaps there are variables in the strategy code called Q and R – as I say I’ve not looked at the code.

  

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  04/23/2020 at 5:34 PM #127664
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  I don’t recall the variables being called Q and R

  I changed them to q and r cuz i’m lazy. Bard has my version of the VRT

  

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  04/23/2020 at 6:07 PM #127667
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  Not sure what you mean and I can’t get anything useful from your screenshot because I don’t have a magnifying glass powerful enough.

  The screen relates to tradeon=1 and it not working to turn off the VRT. The screenshot was taken on a 50″ LG tv. This is it zoomed in: Pls see image.

  Do you mean that you have a strategy with the VRT code in it but turned off.

  Yes, all rem’d out and tradeon taken out of “If buy and sell statements.” The only part of the VRT I left in was the variables in the very top of the system creation window and it made a big +ve difference to the profits. (Yes they’re abbreviations for qty and random). I can also test a non VRT system against a complete (and non rem’d) VRT coded system and the results are very different compared to the non VRT version but I’m guessing that’s not meant to happen? Pls see screen with VRT version makes £211k – top equity curve whilst Bottom equity curve and not a VRT system makes £55k:

  Code otherwise identical thanks to text-compare.com

  When you said:

  “Click on the avg gain per trade tab in the optimiser window to organise the results in low to high and also drag the results into Excel.“

  Did you mean that the smallest numbers at the bottom and largest at the top, only reading the Robustness thread I saw GraHal had a google spreadsheet with the smallest values at the top and the largest at the bottom which threw me? I’m really looking forward to getting Excel to behave and using this great piece of kit! Cheers.

  

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  04/23/2020 at 7:17 PM #127680
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  Did you mean that the smallest numbers at the bottom and largest at the top

  No – smallest at the top. Excel draws graphs using values from the top of the data to the bottom. You will notice that all the graphs slope up from left to right so that is low to high.

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  04/23/2020 at 7:32 PM #127683
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  I just downloaded and imported Nonetheless’s last posted ITF and added the code I posted earlier to allow me to turn the VRT on or off and it worked just fine. With VRT off all the results were identical and with it on they were all different. I then // out all the VRT code and just left tradeon = 1 in the code and it returned one result that was identical to with the VRT code in the strategy but turned off.

  

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  04/24/2020 at 8:32 AM #127711
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  This works well for modifying the period and type of an MA. I included an on/off so can be isolated.

  ONCE EnableHeuristics = 1 If EnableHeuristics = 1 then // Start of Heuristics Algorithm 1 If onmarket[1] = 1 and onmarket = 0 Then optimize = optimize + 1 EnDif StartingValue = 45 ResetPeriod = 10 //Specify no of months after which to reset optimization Increment = 5 MaxIncrement = 10 //Limit of no of increments either up or down Reps = 20 //Number of trades to use for analysis MaxValue = 75 //Maximum allowed value MinValue = 25 //Minimum allowed value once monthinit = month once yearinit = year If (year = yearinit and month = (monthinit + ResetPeriod)) or (year = (yearinit + 1) and ((12 - monthinit) + month = ResetPeriod)) Then ValueX = StartingValue WinCountB = 0 StratAvgB = 0 BestA = 0 BestB = 0 monthinit = month yearinit = year EndIf once ValueX = StartingValue once PIncPos = 1 //Positive Increment Position once NIncPos = 1 //Neative Increment Position once Optimize = 0 ////Initialize Heuristicks Engine Counter (Must be Incremented at Position Start or Exit) once Mode = 1 //Switches between negative and positive increments //once WinCountB = 3 //Initialize Best Win Count //GRAPH WinCountB coloured (0,0,0) AS "WinCountB" //once StratAvgB = 4353 //Initialize Best Avg Strategy Profit //GRAPH StratAvgB coloured (0,0,0) AS "StratAvgB" If Optimize = Reps Then WinCountA = 0 //Initialize current Win Count StratAvgA = 0 //Initialize current Avg Strategy Profit For i = 1 to Reps Do If positionperf(i) > 0 Then WinCountA = WinCountA + 1 //Increment Current WinCount EndIf StratAvgA = StratAvgA + (((PositionPerf(i)*countofposition[i]*100000)*-1)*-1) Next StratAvgA = StratAvgA/Reps //Calculate Current Avg Strategy Profit //Graph (PositionPerf(1)*countofposition[1]*100000)*-1 as "PosPerf1" //Graph (PositionPerf(2)*countofposition[2]*100000)*-1 as "PosPerf2" //Graph StratAvgA*-1 as "StratAvgA" //once BestA = 300 //GRAPH BestA coloured (0,0,0) AS "BestA" If StratAvgA >= StratAvgB Then StratAvgB = StratAvgA //Update Best Strategy Profit BestA = ValueX EndIf //once BestB = 300 //GRAPH BestB coloured (0,0,0) AS "BestB" If WinCountA >= WinCountB Then WinCountB = WinCountA //Update Best Win Count BestB = ValueX EndIf If WinCountA > WinCountB and StratAvgA > StratAvgB Then Mode = 0 ElsIf WinCountA < WinCountB and StratAvgA < StratAvgB and Mode = 1 Then ValueX = ValueX - (Increment*NIncPos) NIncPos = NIncPos + 1 Mode = 2 ElsIf WinCountA >= WinCountB or StratAvgA >= StratAvgB and Mode = 1 Then ValueX = ValueX + (Increment*PIncPos) PIncPos = PIncPos + 1 Mode = 1 ElsIf WinCountA < WinCountB and StratAvgA < StratAvgB and Mode = 2 Then ValueX = ValueX + (Increment*PIncPos) PIncPos = PIncPos + 1 Mode = 1 ElsIf WinCountA >= WinCountB or StratAvgA >= StratAvgB and Mode = 2 Then ValueX = ValueX - (Increment*NIncPos) NIncPos = NIncPos + 1 Mode = 2 EndIf If NIncPos > MaxIncrement or PIncPos > MaxIncrement Then If BestA = BestB Then ValueX = BestA Else If reps >= 10 Then WeightedScore = 10 Else WeightedScore = round((reps/100)*100) EndIf ValueX = round(((BestA*(20-WeightedScore)) + (BestB*WeightedScore))/20) //Lower Reps = Less weight assigned to Win% EndIf NIncPos = 1 PIncPos = 1 ElsIf ValueX > MaxValue Then ValueX = MaxValue ElsIf ValueX < MinValue Then ValueX = MinValue EndIF Optimize = 0 EndIf // End of Heuristics Algorithm 1 ; Start of Heuristics Algorithm 2 If onmarket[1] = 1 and onmarket = 0 Then optimize2 = optimize2 + 1 EnDif StartingValue2 = 3 ResetPeriod2 = 10 //Specify no of months after which to reset optimization Increment2 = 1 MaxIncrement2 = 8 //Limit of no of increments either up or down Reps2 = 20 //Number of trades to use for analysis MaxValue2 = 8 //Maximum allowed value MinValue2 = 0 //Minimum allowed value once monthinit2 = month once yearinit2 = year If (year = yearinit2 and month = (monthinit2 + ResetPeriod2)) or (year = (yearinit2 + 1) and ((12 - monthinit2) + month = ResetPeriod2)) Then ValueY = StartingValue2 WinCountB2 = 0 StratAvgB2 = 0 BestA2 = 0 BestB2 = 0 monthinit2 = month yearinit2 = year EndIf once ValueY = StartingValue2 once PIncPos2 = 1 //Positive Increment Position once NIncPos2 = 1 //Neative Increment Position once Optimize2 = 0 ////Initialize Heuristicks Engine Counter (Must be Incremented at Position Start or Exit) once Mode2 = 1 //Switches between negative and positive increments //once WinCountB = 3 //Initialize Best Win Count //GRAPH WinCountB coloured (0,0,0) AS "WinCountB" //once StratAvgB = 4353 //Initialize Best Avg Strategy Profit //GRAPH StratAvgB coloured (0,0,0) AS "StratAvgB" If Optimize2 = Reps2 Then WinCountA2 = 0 //Initialize current Win Count StratAvgA2 = 0 //Initialize current Avg Strategy Profit For i = 1 to Reps2 Do If positionperf(i) > 0 Then WinCountA2 = WinCountA2 + 1 //Increment Current WinCount EndIf StratAvgA2 = StratAvgA2 + (((PositionPerf(i)*countofposition[i]*100000)*-1)*-1) Next StratAvgA2 = StratAvgA2/Reps2 //Calculate Current Avg Strategy Profit //Graph (PositionPerf(1)*countofposition[1]*100000)*-1 as "PosPerf1" //Graph (PositionPerf(2)*countofposition[2]*100000)*-1 as "PosPerf2" //Graph StratAvgA*-1 as "StratAvgA" //once BestA = 300 //GRAPH BestA coloured (0,0,0) AS "BestA" If StratAvgA2 >= StratAvgB2 Then StratAvgB2 = StratAvgA2 //Update Best Strategy Profit BestA2 = ValueY EndIf //once BestB = 300 //GRAPH BestB coloured (0,0,0) AS "BestB" If WinCountA2 >= WinCountB2 Then WinCountB2 = WinCountA2 //Update Best Win Count BestB2 = ValueY EndIf If WinCountA2 > WinCountB2 and StratAvgA2 > StratAvgB2 Then Mode2 = 0 ElsIf WinCountA2 < WinCountB2 and StratAvgA2 < StratAvgB2 and Mode2 = 1 Then ValueY = ValueY - (Increment2*NIncPos2) NIncPos2 = NIncPos2 + 1 Mode2 = 2 ElsIf WinCountA2 >= WinCountB2 or StratAvgA2 >= StratAvgB2 and Mode2 = 1 Then ValueY = ValueY + (Increment2*PIncPos2) PIncPos2 = PIncPos2 + 1 Mode2 = 1 ElsIf WinCountA2 < WinCountB2 and StratAvgA2 < StratAvgB2 and Mode2 = 2 Then ValueY = ValueY + (Increment2*PIncPos2) PIncPos2 = PIncPos2 + 1 Mode2 = 1 ElsIf WinCountA2 >= WinCountB2 or StratAvgA2 >= StratAvgB2 and Mode2 = 2 Then ValueY = ValueY - (Increment2*NIncPos2) NIncPos2 = NIncPos2 + 1 Mode2 = 2 EndIf If NIncPos2 > MaxIncrement2 or PIncPos2 > MaxIncrement2 Then If BestA2 = BestB2 Then ValueY = BestA2 Else If reps2 >= 10 Then WeightedScore2 = 10 Else WeightedScore2 = round((reps2/100)*100) EndIf ValueY = round(((BestA2*(20-WeightedScore2)) + (BestB2*WeightedScore2))/20) //Lower Reps = Less weight assigned to Win% EndIf NIncPos2 = 1 PIncPos2 = 1 ElsIf ValueY > MaxValue2 Then ValueY = MaxValue2 ElsIf ValueY < MinValue2 Then ValueY = MinValue2 EndIF Optimize2 = 0 EndIf graph valuex coloured(0,255,0,255) as "period" graph valuey coloured(255,0,0,255) as "type" // Heuristics Algorithm 2 End endif If EnableHeuristics = 0 then ValueX = 45 ValueY = 3 endif ma = average[ValueX,ValueY](close) cnd1 = ma > ma[1] cnd2 = ma < ma[1]

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  ONCE EnableHeuristics = 1   If EnableHeuristics = 1 then // Start of Heuristics Algorithm 1 If onmarket[1] = 1 and onmarket = 0 Then optimize = optimize + 1 EnDif StartingValue = 45 ResetPeriod = 10 //Specify no of months after which to reset optimization Increment = 5 MaxIncrement = 10 //Limit of no of increments either up or down Reps = 20 //Number of trades to use for analysis MaxValue = 75 //Maximum allowed value MinValue = 25 //Minimum allowed value once monthinit = month once yearinit = year If (year = yearinit and month = (monthinit + ResetPeriod)) or (year = (yearinit + 1) and ((12 - monthinit) + month = ResetPeriod)) Then ValueX = StartingValue WinCountB = 0 StratAvgB = 0 BestA = 0 BestB = 0 monthinit = month yearinit = year EndIf once ValueX = StartingValue once PIncPos = 1 //Positive Increment Position once NIncPos = 1 //Neative Increment Position once Optimize = 0 ////Initialize Heuristicks Engine Counter (Must be Incremented at Position Start or Exit) once Mode = 1 //Switches between negative and positive increments //once WinCountB = 3 //Initialize Best Win Count //GRAPH WinCountB coloured (0,0,0) AS "WinCountB" //once StratAvgB = 4353 //Initialize Best Avg Strategy Profit //GRAPH StratAvgB coloured (0,0,0) AS "StratAvgB" If Optimize = Reps Then WinCountA = 0 //Initialize current Win Count StratAvgA = 0 //Initialize current Avg Strategy Profit For i = 1 to Reps Do If positionperf(i) > 0 Then WinCountA = WinCountA + 1 //Increment Current WinCount EndIf StratAvgA = StratAvgA + (((PositionPerf(i)*countofposition[i]*100000)*-1)*-1) Next StratAvgA = StratAvgA/Reps //Calculate Current Avg Strategy Profit //Graph (PositionPerf(1)*countofposition[1]*100000)*-1 as "PosPerf1" //Graph (PositionPerf(2)*countofposition[2]*100000)*-1 as "PosPerf2" //Graph StratAvgA*-1 as "StratAvgA" //once BestA = 300 //GRAPH BestA coloured (0,0,0) AS "BestA" If StratAvgA >= StratAvgB Then StratAvgB = StratAvgA //Update Best Strategy Profit BestA = ValueX EndIf //once BestB = 300 //GRAPH BestB coloured (0,0,0) AS "BestB" If WinCountA >= WinCountB Then WinCountB = WinCountA  //Update Best Win Count BestB = ValueX EndIf If WinCountA > WinCountB and StratAvgA > StratAvgB Then Mode = 0 ElsIf WinCountA < WinCountB and StratAvgA < StratAvgB and Mode = 1 Then ValueX = ValueX - (Increment*NIncPos) NIncPos = NIncPos + 1 Mode = 2 ElsIf WinCountA >= WinCountB or StratAvgA >= StratAvgB and Mode = 1 Then ValueX = ValueX + (Increment*PIncPos) PIncPos = PIncPos + 1 Mode = 1 ElsIf WinCountA < WinCountB and StratAvgA < StratAvgB and Mode = 2 Then ValueX = ValueX + (Increment*PIncPos) PIncPos = PIncPos + 1 Mode = 1 ElsIf WinCountA >= WinCountB or StratAvgA >= StratAvgB and Mode = 2 Then ValueX = ValueX - (Increment*NIncPos) NIncPos = NIncPos + 1 Mode = 2 EndIf If NIncPos > MaxIncrement or PIncPos > MaxIncrement Then If BestA = BestB Then ValueX = BestA Else If reps >= 10 Then WeightedScore = 10 Else WeightedScore = round((reps/100)*100) EndIf ValueX = round(((BestA*(20-WeightedScore)) + (BestB*WeightedScore))/20) //Lower Reps = Less weight assigned to Win% EndIf NIncPos = 1 PIncPos = 1 ElsIf ValueX > MaxValue Then ValueX = MaxValue ElsIf ValueX < MinValue Then ValueX = MinValue EndIF Optimize = 0 EndIf   // End of Heuristics Algorithm 1 ; Start of Heuristics Algorithm 2 If onmarket[1] = 1 and onmarket = 0 Then optimize2 = optimize2 + 1 EnDif StartingValue2 = 3 ResetPeriod2 = 10 //Specify no of months after which to reset optimization Increment2 = 1 MaxIncrement2 = 8 //Limit of no of increments either up or down Reps2 = 20 //Number of trades to use for analysis MaxValue2 = 8 //Maximum allowed value MinValue2 = 0 //Minimum allowed value once monthinit2 = month once yearinit2 = year If (year = yearinit2 and month = (monthinit2 + ResetPeriod2)) or (year = (yearinit2 + 1) and ((12 - monthinit2) + month = ResetPeriod2)) Then ValueY = StartingValue2 WinCountB2 = 0 StratAvgB2 = 0 BestA2 = 0 BestB2 = 0 monthinit2 = month yearinit2 = year EndIf once ValueY = StartingValue2 once PIncPos2 = 1 //Positive Increment Position once NIncPos2 = 1 //Neative Increment Position once Optimize2 = 0 ////Initialize Heuristicks Engine Counter (Must be Incremented at Position Start or Exit) once Mode2 = 1 //Switches between negative and positive increments //once WinCountB = 3 //Initialize Best Win Count //GRAPH WinCountB coloured (0,0,0) AS "WinCountB" //once StratAvgB = 4353 //Initialize Best Avg Strategy Profit //GRAPH StratAvgB coloured (0,0,0) AS "StratAvgB" If Optimize2 = Reps2 Then WinCountA2 = 0 //Initialize current Win Count StratAvgA2 = 0 //Initialize current Avg Strategy Profit For i = 1 to Reps2 Do If positionperf(i) > 0 Then WinCountA2 = WinCountA2 + 1 //Increment Current WinCount EndIf StratAvgA2 = StratAvgA2 + (((PositionPerf(i)*countofposition[i]*100000)*-1)*-1) Next StratAvgA2 = StratAvgA2/Reps2 //Calculate Current Avg Strategy Profit //Graph (PositionPerf(1)*countofposition[1]*100000)*-1 as "PosPerf1" //Graph (PositionPerf(2)*countofposition[2]*100000)*-1 as "PosPerf2" //Graph StratAvgA*-1 as "StratAvgA" //once BestA = 300 //GRAPH BestA coloured (0,0,0) AS "BestA" If StratAvgA2 >= StratAvgB2 Then StratAvgB2 = StratAvgA2 //Update Best Strategy Profit BestA2 = ValueY EndIf //once BestB = 300 //GRAPH BestB coloured (0,0,0) AS "BestB" If WinCountA2 >= WinCountB2 Then WinCountB2 = WinCountA2  //Update Best Win Count BestB2 = ValueY EndIf If WinCountA2 > WinCountB2 and StratAvgA2 > StratAvgB2 Then Mode2 = 0 ElsIf WinCountA2 < WinCountB2 and StratAvgA2 < StratAvgB2 and Mode2 = 1 Then ValueY = ValueY - (Increment2*NIncPos2) NIncPos2 = NIncPos2 + 1 Mode2 = 2 ElsIf WinCountA2 >= WinCountB2 or StratAvgA2 >= StratAvgB2 and Mode2 = 1 Then ValueY = ValueY + (Increment2*PIncPos2) PIncPos2 = PIncPos2 + 1 Mode2 = 1 ElsIf WinCountA2 < WinCountB2 and StratAvgA2 < StratAvgB2 and Mode2 = 2 Then ValueY = ValueY + (Increment2*PIncPos2) PIncPos2 = PIncPos2 + 1 Mode2 = 1 ElsIf WinCountA2 >= WinCountB2 or StratAvgA2 >= StratAvgB2 and Mode2 = 2 Then ValueY = ValueY - (Increment2*NIncPos2) NIncPos2 = NIncPos2 + 1 Mode2 = 2 EndIf If NIncPos2 > MaxIncrement2 or PIncPos2 > MaxIncrement2 Then If BestA2 = BestB2 Then ValueY = BestA2 Else If reps2 >= 10 Then WeightedScore2 = 10 Else WeightedScore2 = round((reps2/100)*100) EndIf ValueY = round(((BestA2*(20-WeightedScore2)) + (BestB2*WeightedScore2))/20) //Lower Reps = Less weight assigned to Win% EndIf NIncPos2 = 1 PIncPos2 = 1 ElsIf ValueY > MaxValue2 Then ValueY = MaxValue2 ElsIf ValueY < MinValue2 Then ValueY = MinValue2 EndIF Optimize2 = 0 EndIf graph valuex coloured(0,255,0,255) as "period" graph valuey coloured(255,0,0,255) as "type" // Heuristics Algorithm 2 End endif   If EnableHeuristics = 0 then ValueX = 45 ValueY = 3 endif   ma = average[ValueX,ValueY](close) cnd1 = ma > ma[1] cnd2 = ma < ma[1]

   

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  04/24/2020 at 10:12 AM #127742
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  Good morning,
  I find that the while loop is a duplicate with the if condition.
  You tried without the loop while

  IF high > renkoMax + boxSize THEN WHILE high > renkoMax + boxSize renkoMax = renkoMax + boxSize renkoMin = renkoMin + boxSize WEND ELSIF low < renkoMin - boxSize THEN WHILE low < renkoMin - boxSize renkoMax = renkoMax - boxSize renkoMin = renkoMin - boxSize WEND ENDIF

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  IF high > renkoMax + boxSize THEN WHILE high > renkoMax + boxSize renkoMax = renkoMax + boxSize renkoMin = renkoMin + boxSize WEND ELSIF low < renkoMin - boxSize THEN WHILE low < renkoMin - boxSize renkoMax = renkoMax - boxSize renkoMin = renkoMin - boxSize WEND ENDIF

   

  

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  04/24/2020 at 10:30 AM #127748
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  My browser e-find tells me there is 6 instances of ‘while’ on this page, but I can’t find two of them??

  Nonetheless posted code has no ‘while’ in the code?

  So I’ll have to ask … Fifi, who are you speaking to and which System are you referring to please?

  

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  04/24/2020 at 10:35 AM #127749
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  The bard code

  The code set out on page 13
  The results are different with and without the while loop.

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  04/24/2020 at 10:45 AM #127751
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  fifi743 wrote:

  The code set out on page 13

  It’s always best if we Quote a small / most relevant part of the post we are referring to (as I have above) else folks will assume (as I did) that we are referring to the post immediately above our post.

   

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  04/24/2020 at 10:53 AM #127754
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  I referred to the code renko 1 m ML1 stploss

  I find that the while loop is a duplicate with the if condition.
  You tried without the loop

  

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  04/24/2020 at 11:00 AM #127760
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  So below is Bard’s code (from page 13 Line 145 to Line 155) which is the same as you show in your post?

  So what should Bard have done with the code?

  IF high > renkoMax + boxSize THEN WHILE high > renkoMax + boxSize renkoMax = renkoMax + boxSize renkoMin = renkoMin + boxSize WEND ELSIF low < renkoMin - boxSize THEN WHILE low < renkoMin - boxSize renkoMax = renkoMax - boxSize renkoMin = renkoMin - boxSize WEND ENDIF

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  IF high > renkoMax + boxSize THEN WHILE high > renkoMax + boxSize renkoMax = renkoMax + boxSize renkoMin = renkoMin + boxSize WEND ELSIF low < renkoMin - boxSize THEN WHILE low < renkoMin - boxSize renkoMax = renkoMax - boxSize renkoMin = renkoMin - boxSize WEND ENDIF

   

   

  

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