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  • #127013

    Grahal: So if I set increment = 2 then in any one bar, ValueX or Value Y should not change by more than ‘2’ (up or down)?

    My observations are that often ValueX and / or ValueY does change by multiple x  incremental value in any one bar.

    Change by multiple x  incremental value occurs when increments have not reached their maximum value  …  anyone else get the same?

    PS to @Bard 

    I take it you found Renko Type … it is / was in the code of whatever System we were talking about!?

    I can’t keep up with all these new changes … I need more supplements for the brain … I’ll try a Vinpocetine today!! 🙂

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    #127107

    When everyone was having a s&*% time trading

    Wow yeah … took me a while, but I got same settings as you … we could ALL have been millionaires now and part of the ‘Greek Set’ drinking beer with Vonasi on his Yacht!!!!!

    EDIT / PS

    In case you are wondering wtf we are on about … check out attached!!!

    This one has your name on it  @Nonetheless so we’d all have had to chip in and buy you a Yacht to say thanks!! 🙂

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    #127138

    Not sure how you define Renko Type? There is a box and it has a boxsize, that’s it. When I think of Type I think of Moving Average Types and a whole list of numbers that relates to each one. But earlier you were referring to “Renko Type = 2.”

    I went to here: https://www.prorealcode.com/topic/discussion-re-pure-renko-strategy/#post-120404

    and used the code that’s now in the itf I posted.

    Where/What is “Renko = 2!?” Lol.

    I wouldn’t take a man made synthetic supplement if I have a choice. There are 000’s of chemicals and compounds in fruit and vegetables that nutritionists and researchers still haven’t found out what they do. So best to take naturally derived supplements. Better still try this: 1 Tablespoon of organic cold pressed olive oil 2 or 3 times a day, then tell me how you feel in 3 weeks. You’ll start noticing the difference in cognitive function, mood and in your joints. We really ought to start a separate thread…

    Anyway I getting back to the subject in hand, yes I thought I was seeing odd increments in the oscillator threshold steps of 0.1 being graphed. I will have to check again. I just put it down to my settings.
    I often got better performance by reducing MaxIncrement so that if you were going from -1 to +1 in steps of 0.1 I wouldn’t use 20 but 10 or 5. As you say I would also then see it jump from eg 0.4 to 1.0 but have not investigated if the MaxIncrement had been hit and it was then using an average. I have seen that average with some very erratic numbers and movement eg on the Stop Loss for the Renko (in my last itf on the previous page). 

    Good to see you got good results of that “tick by tick”backtest on that Renko system. Have you VRT tested it yet? I need to figure that out.

    Can you imagine, “chipping in” like it’s loose change and buying a yacht? Lol. Buy Coffee!

    Wend and While is needed and was this Renko meant to be a minute system of monthly?

    Ps/ Do you know why wouldn’t it tag you and Nonetheless in my post “Here is the Code for Renko ML1 — 1 x Machine Learning algo ValueX set to determine the Boxsize” on page 11?

     

    #127151

    Following up to the ML conversion I made of a great Renko Trading System (see previous p11) – here are new random date ranges, new time frames and this time the Spread added, (only accidentally omitted from other tests due to creating a new system instead of duplicating an existing that had my 3.8 spread). The previous examples on p11 were without spread, but it makes no difference when spread is added. Tick by Tick testing remains very profitable whether Coffee Arabica (KC) is trending or ranging.

    Note, this newer version of my ML system (see below for itf file) swapped the ValueX boxsize for optimising the Stop Loss and fixing the boxsize at 100 and the Target Profit of 500.
    Here are the 1 and 4 hourly results. Again a more realistic but still aggressive money management algo is applied of 10 x capital/close. Low drawdowns remain.

    Could anyone apply a Vonasi Robustness Test to these results? Thanks.

     

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    #127187

    was this Renko meant to be a minute system of monthly?

    1 minute.

    Crazy that it makes > 1.5 million on Daily!? 🙂  Althought Lot size had ramped up to 192 at one point, but margin would be well covered by profits so I think I could sleep!!?? 🙂

    Do you know why wouldn’t it tag you and Nonetheless in my post

    You spelt Nonetheless as Nonethetheless, but I can’t see why my tag didn’t work.

     

    #127192

    Thanks @GraHal and apologies for the incorrect spelling @Nonetheless (re: https://www.prorealcode.com/topic/machine-learning-in-proorder/page/11/#post-126950) and thanks for the Renko system.
    Note: The ValueX optimisation of the trailing stop with a fixed boxsize of 100 (itf posted directly above) is far more effective than the system in post #126950 according to “tick by tick” backtests. Wide spreads for realistic slippage also included.

    Where/What is “Renko = 2!?” Lol.

    Not to labour the point but am I missing a better Renko system? A Type 2 system? Double Lol.

    #127197

    Crazy that it makes > 1.5 million on Daily!? 🙂 Althought Lot size had ramped up to 192 at one point, but margin would be well covered by profits so I think I could sleep!!?? 🙂

    Hello, Grahal,
    I think there’s too much zero bar.
    I’ve changed my TF and the same thing.

     

    #127201

    Enclosed is my backtest

    #127205

    Could anyone apply a Vonasi Robustness Test to these results? Thanks.

    How come you are posting results of Systems with the Tick by Tick Box deselected??

    #127209

    I think there’s too much zero bar.

    Zero bars are okay as it only means that either the Take Profit (TP) or the Stop Loss (SL) has been hit within a single bar and so it shows up as zero bars in the results.

    If on a backtest of Daily bars / TF and good results /  equity curve shows and tick by tick is enabled then the TP must have been hit more often than the SL … so all may be good?? 🙂

    Thank you for checking Fifi … I’m glad somebody else is testing these millionaire makers that Bard keeps posting!? 🙂

    #127211

    For me it’s too beautiful, there’s a bug.

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    #127216

    This one has your name on it @nonetheless so we’d all have had to chip in and buy you a Yacht to say thanks!!

    you guys have taken this and run with it, which is great. I think I’m responsible for about 1% of its DNA by now. Maybe less.

    Been through some weird ups and downs this one, but looks like it might fly after all. Thanks to all contributors!

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    #127221

    How come you are posting results of Systems with the Tick by Tick Box deselected??

    Were you looking at: https://www.prorealcode.com/topic/machine-learning-in-proorder/page/12/#post-127151

    It is selected in the screenshot. If you’re seeing that unselected somewhere else, it was probably 2am…

    #127224

    For me it’s too beautiful, there’s a bug.

    That’s what I think, hence my “£55 million on coffee, that’s got to be a mistake surely?

    I ramped up the Money Mgt algo to a ridiculous 30x to push it and see if it would blow up, as I’ve got a lot of past performance experience on other systems with this money algo and know it’s limits. When I got past 10 I was surprised… and then 20… and finally went “full hog” to 30, I couldn’t believe it. As you say it looks too good, so then I left the same ML settings that I’d used for the original 5x capital system and then applied these exact same settings again but with different instruments like the Dow, Brent Crude, and then finally Coffee Arabica… then I thought, okay lets “break it” with a different TF, so I tried it on the 4 hr, 1 hr, even going down to the 10 mins, but I couldn’t. So then I changed the dates and there were solid results there too… A little baffled tbh, hence the request for a Vonasi Robustness Test. My task to figure out today, hopefully.

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    #127225

    Not to labour the point but am I missing a better Renko system? A Type 2 system?

    He’s referring to Renko v2.3pR and others where Paul (I think) had added an option for 3 different renkotypes. You seem to have started from an earlier version that doesn’t have it.

     

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