Creating a stop-limit order in ProOrder
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02/28/2023 at 6:54 PM #210669
Hi, there are options to create stop-limit orders manually but I could not find documentation or examples on how to create them through an automatic trading system.
Just to specify what I mean: Let’s say current market price for a certain instrument is 50. I want to take a long position if the price reaches 60 (stop) and do not want to buy in case price is above 62 (limit) when the order is executed.
Thanks for your help.
02/28/2023 at 7:21 PM #210670Hi Jos,
It works a little differently. Just one example :
1Sell LotSize contracts at StopPriceTF02 LimitThis means that I sell x contracts when the price reaches the StopPrice which is to be above the current price (for a Long position).
This example could be extra complicated for you, but it tells about all.Anyway, with this you can search the (PDF) Manual(s) from ProBacktest and find the syntaxes for various combinations.
Combine in Google “Prorealcode” with parts of commands will also work, but things may be out of context for you at first.Good luck !
PeterPS: You may find things like my example impossible with Manual Trading. With AutoTrading about everything is possible, as long as you understand what to do. This is most of the time not easy at all.
02/28/2023 at 8:12 PM #210672Thanks, Peter. Good to hear that with AutoTrading about everything is possible.
I checked the ProBacktest PDF and searched for coding samples but could not find any on how to create a stop-limit order. What I mean is an order like the green long oder in the example attached.
From a logical perspective the coding should be something like
BUY 1 contracts AT 145,590 STOP AND AT 146,150 LIMIT
I would appreciate a coding example on how this can be accomplished with ProOrder.
02/28/2023 at 8:41 PM #21067402/28/2023 at 9:00 PM #210676Hi Grahal,
Thanks. I think this is a bit different.
In my manual example I have a pending stop-limit order at the market, which is executed automatically once the price hits the stop level. The execution is done at the market at a price not higher than the limit price. If there is a very fast upwards movement, the order may not be executed at all.
If I understand it correctly, in your example you place a simple stop order at the market if the closing pricing before is below 146.150. I do not see how you ensure that the execution price cannot be above 146.150 once the order has been placed.
02/28/2023 at 9:04 PM #21067702/28/2023 at 9:12 PM #210678It is not about the stop. It is about the limit. In your example I don’t see a limit in your order.
If this is all ProOrder has to offer in this regard, it is not what I’m looking for.
In this case I think it is missing important order types which are available in manual trading.
02/28/2023 at 9:43 PM #210679it is not what I’m looking for.
Somebody else may have a better idea than my suggestion?
02/28/2023 at 10:15 PM #210680I think you can do something with:
If NOT OnMarket then
Buy 1 contract at 60 STOP
Buy 1 contract at 62 LIMIT
EndIf
When the STOP order is executed, the LIMIT order expires because you are on market at that moment…
If the STOP order is not executed, the executing price will never exceed the LIMIT order price…
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02/28/2023 at 10:33 PM #210681Thanks JS. I have 2 questions regarding this proposal. Assumption is still that the market price when placing the orders is below both prices, e.g. at 50:
- How is it ensured that the first order (stop order) is not executed above 62 ?
- What pevents the second order (limit order) from being executed immediately?
I understand that because market price is below the price for the second order, this order gets executed immediately. (See also page 12 of the tradings systems programming guide PDF.)
02/28/2023 at 10:40 PM #210684You are right, it is not correct what I write above because a LIMIT order must of course always be below the last price and not above it…
Maybe this solution works:
If Close < = 62 then
Buy 1 contract at 60 STOP
EndIf
The STOP order will be placed every time as long as the price is below 62…
When the price rises above 62, the STOP order will no longer be placed…
02/28/2023 at 10:50 PM #21068502/28/2023 at 11:04 PM #21068702/28/2023 at 11:11 PM #21068802/28/2023 at 11:20 PM #210689A workaround would be to create these orders manually. However, it does not seem possible to have the orders managed by an automated trading system afterwards. (For example, to adjust stop-loss limits or cancel dependent orders automatically.)
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