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    boxsize would have changed from the startingvalue 27 after 8 trades

    possibly true, i’d have to graph it. But assuming it did change, it changed for the worse, as I take a loss on the 24th where you get a gain. Lengthy forward testing is the only way with such short TFs. Even with 200k, the back test only says  whether or not it worked last week … not much to go on.

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    Yes I agree, this is a massive disadvantage on this timeframe. I wonder why the ML changes for the worse though, what can be changed for it to make a better decision? I was hoping fixed all and pt would help but that might not be the case.

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    eckaw
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    In my previous post I was meant to say fixed “sl and pt” – autocorrect..

    #128125 quote
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    I wonder why the ML changes for the worse though

    Different price conditions on 23/4.

    If from one day to the next price changes from big swings / trends up to little swings / trends up (and opposite for shorts) then the box size which was valid on 23/4 (for big swings) will not be valid on 24/4 (for little swings) … so the ML would need a lot of trades on 24/4 to adjust the value back to a good / winning value.

    I was manual trading  on 5 sec TF on 24/4 and it was a waste of my time because price was up a few points down a few points, up a few points, down a few points .. all day long it seemed?

    Just a few thoughts anyway … I still think daily optimisation is the way to go on sub 1 min TF’s … even with the ML also doing additional optimisation on the fly within the strategy.

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    wonder why the ML changes for the worse though

    What GraHal said and the way the code was setup, means there are a lot of signals which are ignored when in a position. The backtest results are basically luck. Maybe ML has more chance, when it realise a position is opened and going in the opposite direction and a new signal appears in the same directions, the previous one is closed an a new one is opened with new parameters.

    So i.e. a long position in loss is closed and taken in consideration with ML because the long signal appears in the same direction. It gives meaning to a bad signal, which can maybe influence the next one for the better. When a trade long is positive and another long signal appears then there’s no action. Only in loss. Or you could do the opposite 🙂

    I believe and very well could be wrong here, but if the backtest results don’t change too much with more trades, the strategy is more robust.  However still it’s no guarantee. I don’t think ML is the holy grail in this btw.

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    #129056 quote
    Francesco
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    Is anyone testing in demo 2.3pr? Which timeframe, boxsize, renkotype and stoploss?
    Can i have result images? Thanks.

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    Anyone still running 10s/1s?

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    Anyone still running 10s/1s?

    Can anyone explain how you can make a profit on such a small TF when the spread is taken into account and how long are the trades held onto? I know when I was live scalping Forex that I couldn’t make money on anything under a 3 minute chart.

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    How about coding for conditions as attached … happened at 13:17 today and was all over 2 minutes later!

    Generally happens several times per day … Open – Close > x and exit at first pull back > Y etc?

    I’ve made £95 today on 6 trades like attached and lots of little ones.

    I was mad again as yesterday 3 x Algos on 5 Min TF lost me £80 so I made it back up on manual trades!  Maybe I should get mad more often!? 🙂

    I think we need to look at a scenarios as attached and code for it … then backtest to see if it works / optimise ??

    Maybe it won’t work and only the human  eye / brain can take it all in!? 🙂

    PS

    Dam … just missed another while typing this!  See Renko 2 attached!

    Scalp.jpg Scalp.jpg GH-6.jpg GH-6.jpg Renko-2.jpg Renko-2.jpg
    #130255 quote
    Francesco
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    I can’t understand exactly what conditions you are referring to, that chart is a labyrinth 😮

    #130256 quote
    GraHal
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    Chart is on a 5 sec TF and I am referring to the several successive red candles that provide a very short term profitable run.

    I know you were joking … right!? 🙂

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    Francesco
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    So you mean doing something like that? Long when body and the low of the last candle is greater then previous 2 candle and viceversa

    In certain hour times also? Maybe adding a bearish/bullish detection?

    body= abs(close - open)
    short= open>close
    long= close>open
    
    if close>close[1] then
       if body>body[1] and body>body[2] then
          if short[1] then
             sellshort 1 contract at market
          endif
       endif
    elsif close<close[1] then
       if body>body[1] and body>body[2] then
          if long[1] then
             buy 1 contract at market
          endif
       endif
    endif

    Not Tested

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    #130265 quote
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    Yeah might work, but also maybe needs a size of body in the code as these ‘explosions’ happen with bigger candles than most candles  … I guess it’s caused by an institution selling / buying a lot of stock?

    Also as soon as there is a pullback > y points then exit?

    All needs to be optimised and backtested etc, but I was just trying to show by my results today that it can work.

    I use the 5 sec TF because – if short – then it’s easy to see green candles forming and their size re a pullback etc.

    I didn’t know you were that quick at coding … I’ll go check out your latest Scalpmaster! 🙂

    #130266 quote
    Francesco
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    Just found that snippet in the forum, i’m not that good 🙂

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    I have been running the renko v2p dji 1sec_mod fifi and it is running very well but its stopping sometimes and I dont know why.. I have capital free so i cant tell why its doing that.

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