VERY SERIOUS ERRORS IN PROREALTIME’S ESSENTIAL DATA

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    MigVi
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    Junior

    FOR THE ATTENTION OF PROREALTIME,

    For a long time, I have been reading public criticisms reporting serious and repeated errors in the data displayed by ProRealTime. Today, I also read on Reddit a criticism published yesterday by other users, concerning precisely this same issue.

    These criticisms do not concern the colours used in charts or simple differences in visual presentation between platforms. They concern discrepancies in the figures themselves: the figures that form the basis of charts, indicators, alerts, scanners, back-tests and, more broadly, all market analysis.

    I consider it essential to state clearly the arguments made in these criticisms because, after carrying out my own thorough comparisons, I have found exactly the same facts and I fully agree with the reasons invoked.

    WHAT THE CRITICISMS REPORT

    The criticisms state that the discrepancies concern the fundamental price data: Open, High, Low and Close. They also concern daily and intraday volume corresponding to each time frame used.

    They stress that these discrepancies are not about a particular charting convention. A platform may choose different colours for its candlesticks or volume bars: that is not the issue. What matters are the actual numerical values. Those values must correspond exactly to the values published by exchanges and other authoritative original market-data sources.

    The criticisms explain that, in many cases, the discrepancies are already visible to the naked eye. The shape of a candlestick, the sequence of candlesticks or the relative size of volume bars may immediately reveal an anomaly. When the anomaly is not clearly visible, an automated comparison of data series, including through artificial-intelligence systems, can rapidly detect differences between ProRealTime data and official-source data. This automated detection does not replace verification: it identifies the cases that must be examined. Then, by checking the precise figures, zooming in and comparing the values, one finds that the discrepancies are real.

    The criticisms therefore describe hundreds and hundreds of errors per security reviewed, both in price data and in volume data. They refer to discrepancies that are sometimes extremely large, even colossal, compared with the reference data published by official sources, including Nasdaq for Nasdaq-listed securities. They therefore conclude that this is neither a small number of marginal anomalies nor isolated errors, but a repetitive, materially verifiable problem that is gravely incompatible with a serious financial-analysis platform.

    I fully confirm these findings. I had already conducted this type of check before and had even reported a specific anomaly directly to ProRealTime. Approximately three days later, the relevant values were changed to match the figures published by Nasdaq. Today, after reading the criticism published yesterday, I resumed the comparisons in depth. I found exactly the same problem: hundreds and hundreds of errors per security reviewed, both in Open, High, Low and Close data and in daily and intraday volume. The discrepancies against Nasdaq reference data are sometimes colossal. I therefore fully agree with the arguments made in these criticisms because my own checks confirm them.

    WHY THESE ERRORS DESTROY ALL ANALYTICAL VALUE

    The criticisms rightly recall that price and volume data are not secondary elements. They are the premises of every calculation, every indicator and every analytical conclusion.

    When an opening price, high, low, closing price or volume figure is wrong, the corresponding chart is wrong. When the chart is wrong, every calculation based on it is also wrong. When the calculations are wrong, the indicators, signals and conclusions derived from those indicators necessarily become wrong.

    This distorts, among other things, moving averages, RSI, MACD, ATR, Bollinger Bands, volatility measures, trend and momentum readings, breakout and reversal signals, price-volume analysis, volume indicators, VWAP, alerts, scanners, back-tests, statistical models, algorithmic models, risk management and position sizing.

    The criticisms therefore correctly argue that calculations based on materially inaccurate data can create a signal that does not exist, conceal a real signal, distort a trend reading, falsify the interpretation of volume, or lead to a conclusion opposite to the one that would result from authentic data. Investment and trading decisions that depend on those calculations are therefore necessarily altered. They may be directed in precisely the opposite direction to that indicated by real data.

    I fully confirm this chain of consequences. I have compared the same securities with other platforms and, in the comparisons I carried out, their data matched the reference data consulted, whereas ProRealTime displayed the discrepancies described above. This is precisely why certain charts differ substantially from one platform to another. Without accurate price and volume data, no indicator, alert, scanner, back-test or analysis built on ProRealTime can inspire even minimal confidence. Under these conditions, the platform becomes absolutely useless for any serious analysis.

    WHY USERS CANNOT CORRECT THE PROBLEM

    The criticisms stress that it is impossible to transfer to users the responsibility for detecting, reconciling and correcting these errors.

    When one detects a discrepancy, one has no write access to ProRealTime’s historical database. One cannot replace an incorrect price, modify an incorrect volume figure, or inject accurate data into the platform’s charts, indicators, alerts, scanners or back-tests.

    Even if one possesses correct reference data, no one can materially detect, check, compare and manually correct thousands of records across numerous securities, multiple markets and several time frames. This task would be technically and materially impossible. Users may identify discrepancies; they cannot correct ProRealTime’s historical databases.

    The correction, reconciliation, validation, audit and certification of historical data therefore fall exclusively within ProRealTime’s responsibility. The platform must guarantee, automatically, continuously and demonstrably, that all data it distributes faithfully correspond to data published by original market-data sources.

    I fully confirm this point. I can compare, identify and document discrepancies, but I cannot correct them within the platform. This impossibility results both from the complete lack of system access and from the material scale of the task. It is impossible to manually check, every day, thousands of price and volume values for all securities and all time frames. Until ProRealTime has implemented rigorous, automated, audited and certified alignment with official data, it will be impossible to place lasting trust in it.

    WHY THE PERSISTENCE OF THE PROBLEM IS PARTICULARLY OUTRAGEOUS

    The criticisms recall that this problem has already been the subject of many public complaints for a long time. This is precisely what makes the situation even more serious and more unacceptable for a platform of this level.

    After repeated warnings, after public complaints, after previous reports and after isolated corrections already made, the persistence of hundreds and hundreds of discrepancies per security reviewed necessarily destroys confidence. A platform used to analyse markets, manage risk and make financial decisions cannot continue to distribute materially incorrect data without deeply compromising its credibility.

    The criticisms therefore legitimately lead one to question the causes: inadequate data governance, ingestion errors, aggregation errors, failures in validation controls, defective historical-data maintenance, negligence, operational inefficiency or another systemic cause. It would be irresponsible to attribute intent without evidence. But whatever the cause, none of these possibilities makes the result acceptable.

    I fully share this indignation. I do not wish ProRealTime to lose the trust of its users. On the contrary, with fully accurate data, fully corrected historical records and strong certification, it could become an exceptional platform, perhaps one of the best on the market. But in its current state, I understand those who call it a “toy”. A visually sophisticated platform whose calculations rest on incorrect data is not a reliable professional decision-support tool. It can seriously mislead users. Without accurate data, it becomes not only useless for serious analysis, but also potentially harmful.

    WHAT PROREALTIME MUST DO

    It is urgent that ProRealTime fully correct all affected price and volume histories.

    This correction must not be limited to a few reported securities, a few recent dates, a few markets or a few isolated examples. It must cover ProRealTime’s entire coverage universe: all exchanges, all markets, all financial instruments and all historical records for which the platform provides data, charts, indicators or analytical tools.

    ProRealTime must carry out an exhaustive audit, security by security and instrument by instrument, systematically reconciling its data with data published by exchanges and original market-data sources. It must correct all affected historical records, both price data and volume data.

    It must also publicly explain the sources it uses, its processing methods, its adjustment rules, any transformations applied to the data, the causes of the identified discrepancies and the concrete measures adopted to prevent their recurrence.

    Finally, it must implement a permanent audit, validation, reconciliation and certification mechanism guaranteeing that displayed data correspond accurately, continuously and verifiably to original market-source data.

    I fully support these demands. I ask ProRealTime to act seriously, without delay and with total transparency. Price and volume histories must be corrected in full, and their consistency with official data must be demonstrable, not merely asserted.

    MAXIMUM ATTENTION, URGENCY AND THE RESTORATION OF TRUST

    I deeply thank ProRealTime for the maximum attention it may give to what is described here. I insist on this point: the attention given to this issue must be maximum because the data concerned form the foundation of every calculation performed on the platform.

    I also thank ProRealTime in advance for acting with the greatest urgency. The purpose of this complaint is not to destroy the platform or hinder its development. On the contrary, it would be highly desirable to be able to trust it, to use it seriously and, one day, to subscribe to its services with the certainty that the data being analysed genuinely correspond to market data.

    However, until price and volume histories have been fully corrected across all markets and exchanges covered by ProRealTime, the minimum conditions will not exist to place sufficient trust in it, even for free use. It is impossible to build, interpret or seriously use indicators when the essential data on which they depend are wrong.

    Checks will therefore continue to be performed. Not in order to attempt to correct the data personally — which is impossible — but in order to verify whether ProRealTime has genuinely put in place the necessary corrections, controls and certification. Today, artificial-intelligence systems can rapidly identify discrepancies between data series. They do not enable users to correct the ProRealTime database, but they do enable the detection of differences that should never exist if data were correctly integrated and regularly audited.

    When trust is lost, it becomes extremely difficult to rebuild. Without an absolutely serious approach, without complete correction, without genuine transparency, without permanent audit and without demonstrable consistency with official data, trust will remain profoundly weakened. Users may then be forced constantly to wonder whether the data entered into the platform are once again wrong and whether the calculations resulting from them remain deeply distorted.

    ProRealTime would unquestionably deserve a very different level of consideration if its data truly, fully and permanently matched data from official sources. It could deserve users’ trust, recommendations and subscriptions. But that trust can exist only if price and volume data are accurate, complete, verifiable and faithful to data published by original markets.

    I therefore thank ProRealTime again for giving this complaint the greatest attention and for intervening with the greatest urgency. The full correction of price and volume histories across the platform’s entire market coverage is indispensable. Without this correction, the platform cannot serve serious financial analysis. With this correction, transparency and certification, it could once again become a platform that fully deserves the trust of its users.

    #262266 quote
    JS
    Participant
    Veteran

    Before concluding that ProRealTime provides incorrect data, I think there’s a fundamental issue with the comparison…

    You’re comparing IG CFD data with official Nasdaq market data, but those are two different products…

    A CFD price is created by IG and is not expected to match the official exchange price exactly…

    The same applies to volume, since CFDs do not have official exchange volume…

    If you want to demonstrate that ProRealTime’s data is actually incorrect, you need to compare the same data source (for example, Nasdaq data versus Nasdaq data), not a CFD feed against official exchange data…

    Otherwise, you’re comparing apples with oranges, and the observed differences do not, by themselves, prove that the data is wrong…

    #262267 quote
    GraHal
    Participant
    Master

    Are the price data errors that you (and others) have noted:

    1. With PRT Platform provided / logged in direct with PRT and using, for example, IBKR as broker?

    OR

    2. With PRT Platform provided / logged in direct with IG and using IG as broker / market maker and therefore also using ‘IG in-house price data’?

    #262268 quote
    JS
    Participant
    Veteran

    When you read the Reddit post, you’ll see that it compares IG CFD data with official (Nasdaq) market data…

    Those are two different products, so the comparison is fundamentally flawed…

    #262273 quote
    MigVi
    Participant
    Junior

    That is precisely the point I made.For Nasdaq-listed securities, the relevant authoritative comparison source is Nasdaq itself. IG, Saxo Bank, or Interactive Brokers are not the official source for the underlying Nasdaq-listed equity data; they may provide broker, CFD, or other derivative feeds, but those are different products and cannot be used as the benchmark for verifying official Nasdaq OHLC and volume data.I do not use ProRealTime through IG, Saxo Bank, Interactive Brokers, or any other broker. I use the standalone ProRealTime platform solely because of its technical-analysis and quantitative-analysis tools. That should be one of its greatest strengths. However, that is not what I am observing in practice.The underlying data are not fully accurate. There are hundreds — I repeat, hundreds — of errors per security reviewed, widely dispersed throughout the historical data. The discrepancies are particularly serious in daily volume bars, although they also affect the core price fields: Open, Close, High, and Low.This has direct and fundamental consequences. Indicators calculated solely from price are distorted where the affected OHLC data enter their calculations. Indicators calculated solely from volume are distorted where the volume data are wrong. Indicators combining price and volume are likewise distorted. In all three cases, the calculations cease to provide a reliable analytical basis, because the inputs on which they depend do not correspond to the actual market data.The resulting readings and inferences are therefore deeply distorted. They can produce false signals, conceal genuine signals, and lead to conclusions that are completely different from — and, in material cases, opposite to — those that would follow from the correct data. Such calculations are not usable for any serious analytical or decision-making purpose.My comparison is not IG CFD data versus Nasdaq data. It is ProRealTime data for Nasdaq-listed securities versus Nasdaq’s own published data. That is the comparison that matters.Anyone who doubts this should carry out the exercise directly: compare the ProRealTime data for the companies included in the Nasdaq-100 with the figures published on Nasdaq’s own website. Compare the actual numerical values: Open, High, Low, Close, and daily volume. The issue is not chart colours, broker CFDs, or visual presentation. It is whether the figures displayed by ProRealTime correspond to the official Nasdaq figures.Please do that comparison before assuming that the discrepancies result from comparing different products.

    #262274 quote
    PeterSt
    Participant
    Master

    Yawn


    MigVi must have received a sun stroke of some kind, now posting this AI generated text in all languages on this forum (already removed by moderators, I think).


    It is nothing related to not-understanding CFD stupidity; it is all related to some form of hetze / smear campaign originating on the internet somewhere, without a spur of the “why”.


    I am not claiming (at all) that MigVi created the text. But I do claim (for 100%) that he reposts it in here. Logic tells me that he is the original poster elsewhere, and that he most likely nicks himself GePatton elsewhere.


    So MigVi, what happened to you ? can you talk about it ?


    #262275 quote
    MigVi
    Participant
    Junior

    Wrong!

    #262276 quote
    JS
    Participant
    Veteran

    I’m not familiar with the standalone ProRealTime data feed, as I only use ProRealTime through IBKR/IG…

    Could you provide a few concrete examples that would make it much easier to understand whether we’re looking at genuine data errors or differences caused by the data source or its processing…

    #262277 quote
    MigVi
    Participant
    Junior

    I think I made this clear in my first reply above.I do not use ProRealTime through IG, Interactive Brokers, Saxo Bank, or any other broker. I use ProRealTime as a standalone platform.So this is not a comparison between IG CFD data and Nasdaq data.If you want to check what ProRealTime itself says about its market data, please read the two official links below. The point is not that Interactive Brokers says this. It is ProRealTime itself that states that its market data are received directly from the exchanges and that it is directly connected to major exchanges.

    1 – https://www.prorealtime.com/en/

    2 – https://www.prorealtime.com/en/ultra-low-latency-market-data-feed

    IG Markets, Interactive Brokers and Saxo Bank are not stock exchanges in the sense relevant here. They are financial intermediaries. Interactive Brokers also operates an alternative trading system, but that is not the same thing as a national securities exchange such as Nasdaq.Nasdaq, by contrast, is an exchange operator. Therefore, for a Nasdaq listed share, the relevant question is not whether I am comparing an IG CFD with Nasdaq data. I am not.The relevant question is this: what is the exact source and methodology used by ProRealTime for the Open, High, Low, Close, and daily volume data shown for Nasdaq listed shares on its standalone platform?If ProRealTime itself says that its market data are received directly from the exchanges, why do its historical figures sometimes differ so widely from the figures published by Nasdaq?I have already reported some discrepancies directly to ProRealTime in the past. Around two or three days later, the historical values were changed to match the figures published by Nasdaq. That is why I am asking for a clear explanation of the data source and methodology.Please do not assume that the discrepancies result from comparing different products. That is not the configuration I use.

    #262282 quote
    MigVi
    Participant
    Junior

    Please do the exercise yourself. Go to Nasdaq’s official website, choose any Nasdaq-listed stock you want, and compare its historical Open, High, Low, Close, and volume data directly with the historical figures displayed by ProRealTime.Make the comparison yourself before casting doubt on what other users are reporting here. That is the simplest way to settle this discussion once and for all.

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    #262283 quote
    MigVi
    Participant
    Junior

    That’s it…! Are you master?! God!!!!!

    #262284 quote
    JS
    Participant
    Veteran

    Unfortunately, I can’t perform the comparison myself because I don’t have access to the standalone ProRealTime data feed…

    I only use ProRealTime through IBKR/IG…

    That’s why I’m asking for a few concrete examples…

    #262288 quote
    GraHal
    Participant
    Master

    MigVi do you trade (buy / sell) using the ‘standalone PRT Platform’ (you refer to)?

    Which broker are you using when you do above?

    #262289 quote
    Nicolas
    Keymaster
    Legend

    Please post your comparison screenshots to understand what it is all about.

    Do you compare the same exact instrument (not a Futures contracts with an index?) ; same timezone and custom hours chart customisation?

    #262300 quote
    PeterSt
    Participant
    Master


    GraHal wrote: MigVi do you trade (buy / sell) using the ‘standalone PRT Platform’ (you refer to)? Which broker are you using when you do above?

    N/a, because he uses screeners (if anything).

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VERY SERIOUS ERRORS IN PROREALTIME’S ESSENTIAL DATA


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