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  • 09/29/2025 at 1:49 PM #251964
    XORANDNOT
    phoentzs wrote:

    I currently have a spread of 1 point on the DAX spot price of €1 during trading hours… but it’s been like this forever. German IG account.

    Spreads now for DAX 1 € :

    Germany : 1.0

    France : 1.8

    Switzerland : 1.4 or 1.8, depending on the contract (there are 2 different 1 € contracts now)

    09/29/2025 at 1:54 PM #251965
    PeterSt

    Netherlands is also 1€. Well, it was last week. I suppose that did not change.

    Edit : Yes, it is still the same. Mind you, at this time (I don’t know about evenings or early mornings).

    09/29/2025 at 1:57 PM #251966
    XORANDNOT

    How big is the margin in the Netherlands ?

    In Germany, it is 5%, in Switzerland 0.5 %.

    09/29/2025 at 2:04 PM #251967
    justisan

    ok, so I am located in austria, and what IG platform shows for me “today” for dax during main trading hours is:

    spread 1.00 pt for 1EUR contract, and 1.40 pt for both 5EUR and 25EUR cfd contract.

    first: this 1.00 for 1EUR contract shows since last week or so, before  = after beginning of current desaster = it was showing 1.80, and before beginning of current desaster it was 1.40 for several year. last time it was 1.00 it was – I think – before the covid.

    second: it was never (last 15 years or so) the case until currently that spread was different for 1/2/25EUR contracts.

    can somebody explain it to me? please don’t.

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    09/29/2025 at 2:09 PM #251968
    justisan

    … I meant 1/5/25EUR contracts. sorry for typing mistake.

    anyway, either all these current differences of spread for same instrument / different contracts / different countries is part of the mess, or it is on purpose, and again – simple profit maximization, and not what IG explains as spread (being dependent on vola and liquidity).

    09/29/2025 at 2:09 PM #251969
    XORANDNOT

    for they don’t know what they’re doin…

     

    at IG of course

    09/29/2025 at 2:11 PM #251970
    XORANDNOT

    I can understand that for a margin of 0.5 %, IG charges more spread because their risk is higher than with a margin of 5%.

    09/29/2025 at 2:16 PM #251971
    PeterSt

    You got me there on answering a question which is hard for me to answer because although I may be kicked out on margin call (IG), I don’t trade in these limits because it is the trading systems “arranging” for that. So if I coincidentally have 20 of them running at the same time, I will be kicked out, if also the instrument (mainly US tech 100) just dropped 5%. Long story short : I recall 3% for non-pros. Pro could be less than 1% (for IG this is asking – and getting).

    09/29/2025 at 2:19 PM #251972
    XORANDNOT

    You can check on the IG trading platform. Just enter 1 contract, stop loss = 1000 and see what the margin requirement is.

    09/29/2025 at 2:22 PM #251973
    PeterSt
    XORANDNOT wrote:

    I can understand that for a margin of 0.5 %, IG charges more spread because their risk is higher than with a margin of 5%.

    I don’t see it like that because their Margin Call system works quite well. Thus before you go under, they already kicked out your position (IB no different).
    But
    I think I read the other day that a Pro account *can* go under. I mean, IG just allows that. How this really works ? no clue. It would mean : no Margin Call applies and you just go under (and undoubtedly will be charged the main price for interest).

    09/29/2025 at 2:25 PM #251974
    XORANDNOT

    Well, when you saw some sudden price changes in Nasdaq during Trump’s tariff chaos, like 100 points within 5 seconds, this comes close to the 0.5% margin and they may not be able to close a position by margin call.

    09/29/2025 at 2:28 PM #251975
    PeterSt

    Umm …
    Margin does not appear yet (not sure how to enforce is) but what I notice … see below. At a position size larger than 3, the Spread changes from 1.0 to 1.5 …
    So Yes, I have read about that too, but I never really saw it (trades go via PRT for me).

    Does this change perspectives ?

    09/29/2025 at 2:31 PM #251977
    XORANDNOT

    Select coop or verkoop (do not press “execute trade”) and it will show “vereiste marge”.

     

    And you have spread = 1.5 there. Funny….

    09/29/2025 at 2:38 PM #251978
    XORANDNOT

    This is the situation in Switzerland for 100 contracts (yes !) of DAX 1 € :

    Spread = 1.4, margin = 0.5 %.

    09/29/2025 at 2:48 PM #251980
    PeterSt

    Learning a lot here … 🙂
    (which I should have known already)

    DAX is 5 % margin.
    But also see the table on spreads in the top. First screenshot.

    This list is not there for US Tech 100 (spread is also 5%). Second screenshot.

     

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