I’m not getting 200K candles in v11 demo via IG

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  • 12/20/2020 at 10:45 PM #154664
    Vonasi

    From the PRT website it seems the history available depends upon the instrument that you are looking at and the time frame in either Complete or Premium:

    https://prt.md.it-finance.com/IGIndex/features_premium.phtml?locale=en_GB

     

    01/09/2021 at 9:35 PM #157137
    Kovit
    George65 wrote:

    By the way, this is  a joke and overcomplicated and not customer friendly.Period

    PRT and IG are separate companies offering two totally different products. PRT provide a platform and IG provide brokerage services and market data.

    IG offer the ‘Complete’ platform as a free bonus product if you open an account with them.

    PRT offer the’ Premium’ platform for a price but you can have it for free if you open an IG account when signing up for it as they get a cut of the action whenever you trade and also maybe a monthly usage fee from IG for each account opened via PRT (I don’t know the exact details of their arrangement!)

    It is not overcomplicated but just two different companies using each other to sell and promote their own products.

    Most people find their way to PRT because they get interested in spread betting/CFD trading and open an account with IG as it is a market leader in that field. Most people do not go out looking for a trading platform and then see who they can connect it to to get data and brokerage services. Later some of them switch to PRT Premium when they find out that this is possible to get it via PRT for free if they open an IG account via them.

    //This is where I’ve inserted my response.:)

    I had the same problem also Vonasi and other forum users, when trying to distinguish between the two offers available, ProRealtime through IG or direct through PRT my PRT sales rep advised they would take a commission/spread together with IG’s own spread but was unable to give me exact details or figures. Being new to trading I decided to go with the facts I knew from IG rather than take a chance and trade direct through PRT with potentially increased running costs.

     

    01/09/2021 at 9:45 PM #157138
    Monobrow

    For tax reasons im focusing on Spreadbetting.

    You definitely only get 100k bars max with the IG Client in their spreadbet markets.

    Neither IG nor PRT will confirm in writing if I will get more than 100k bars of IGs spreadbet data (I believe because its IGs own market and PRT doesnt have that data) if I upgrade to PRT Premium and link to IG.

    The response seems to be.. “try it”. but id rather not go through messing about with setting up and funding new accounts to find out it doesnt work and then my account is flagged by IG or something because the same bank/address is trading on a new/different account with PRT.

    really is a ballache, should be much simpler.

     

    01/09/2021 at 11:39 PM #157149
    Vonasi

    Kovit – There are no increased costs to trade if you go via PRT to open an IG account. The only cost is if you fail to trade enough and then you will have to pay a usage fee or lose Premium benefits.

    Monobrow – You will get the Premium benefits if you open an account with IG via PRT. The chap you spoke to at IG either does not know what he is talking about or would prefer that you open an account directly with IG as it is more cost effective for IG. Regarding multiple accounts – you can have many accounts as long as you have enough email addresses and can fund them all suitably to cover margin.

    Kovit – You can quote multiple other posts or bits of posts in your reply. Just highlight the text and hit quote and it will be inserted wherever your cursor last was in your reply.

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    01/10/2021 at 12:01 AM #157152
    Monobrow
    Vonasi wrote:

    The chap you spoke to at IG

    Ive not even had a response! Just an automated email with a survey link. I am already an IG customer and happy with the setup, id just like to have more bars for backtest.

    Do you know for certain that I will get 1M bars of IG spreadbet dax 1min backtest data if I go premium with PRT? Because from what ive been told, with PRT premium ill only get their data, which is likely to not match with IG spread data.

    01/10/2021 at 9:42 AM #157173
    Vonasi

    If it is a PRT sponsored IG account then you get IG data.

    01/10/2021 at 10:02 AM #157174
    Monobrow

    Ok great, thank you.

    01/11/2021 at 12:32 PM #157298
    PeterSt

    See attachments. This is PRT-IG Premium, obtained via PRT-Direct.

    From March 2018 until today is 20 months. This is roughly 80 weeks.
    This index trades 24 hours a day, 5 days a week. This is thus 400 days of 24 hours = 9600 hours. My bars are 1 minute, so there should be ~ 576000 bars in there. Not the expected 1M.
    But maybe my math is off.
    Anyway, it always has been so that
    a. Premium gives more with IG
    b. but less than PRT-Direct.

    I don’t do a thing in there and my Premium stays forever (because I pay PRT for Premium forever ;-)).
    But because I don’t trade in there (BUT with a running Portfolio with shares !) I pay 30 euros per month to IG. Would I apply 4 trades a month (no matter how small), the PRT Sponsored account will be free.

    The offered instruments to trade are most certainly not the same.

    01/11/2021 at 12:46 PM #157306
    Monobrow
    PeterSt wrote:

    The offered instruments to trade are most certainly not the same.

    Hi Peter.

    Can you clarify this please….  I currently trade the IG DAX daily funded Spreadbet market and use the 1Min timeframe.
    If I also open a PRT premium account, will I be able to trade that market and see exactly the same data for backtest?

     

    thanks

    01/11/2021 at 1:09 PM #157317
    PeterSt
    Monobrow wrote:

    Can you clarify this please….  I currently trade the IG DAX daily funded Spreadbet market

    I will be happy to check for you, but I think I need a ticker first (too easy to make mistakes).

    If I also open a PRT premium account, will I be able to trade that market and see exactly the same data for backtest?

    You could mean two things here (or even more – I assume you mean the PRT-Direct account, right ?) :

    1. Spreadbet data in PRT-IB ? (the answer will be No right away);
    2. Spreadbet data in PRT-IG (like I have it) ?

    If your answer to #2 is Yes, then in advance I wouldn’t know why I would see something different than you (but I will try to check anyway). Remember, the data we receive in PRT-IG is IG’s data (not IBKR data as how we get that in PRT-Direct).

    I sense that you could expect a difference with the 1M data because this is formally historical data. (this is treaded differently / separately by PRT). So you could have a good question there … This, with the notice that all which is “live” data is 200K bars maximum. And since I calculated 576K it should be “historical” as such indeed. And yes, now it is going to be exciting …
    Why ?

    Well, it is my estimate that a platform provider like PRT is, can get its historical data from any place. And next fake reality as good as possible. 🙂

    Background info : I have worked with the API of IBKR (say program your own platform) and/but gave up on that because it is too tedious to “form” the historical data older than x weeks. This is just not available anywhere and you’d need to capture it yourself (as in : wait 2 years with some live streaming and record it all). Or else : these data feeds have very high prices *), so even larger parties (entities) try to get it as cheap as possible.

    *) Disclaimer : This is what I understood from hear say; I don’t know for real.

    01/11/2021 at 1:29 PM #157322
    Monobrow

    Thanks Peter and yes it is #2.

    i currently have an IG Prt account (i.e i opened account with IG and turned on PRT. But i am limited to 100k bars data which is only 3 months or so of 24/7 1min spreadbet data,

     

    i would like more backtest data so am thinking of opening a PRT-IG account but want to know for certain that my tuned algo will see the data in PRT-IG as it does in IG-PRT.

     

    if you have both, perhaps you could run a 100k bar algo backtest on both accounts and see if you get the same result?

    01/11/2021 at 1:37 PM #157324
    PeterSt

    Sure … If you can confirm the ticker to me … (and I hope I have the subscription).

    Monobrow wrote:

    i would like more backtest data so am thinking of opening a PRT-IG account but want to know for certain that my tuned algo will see the data in PRT-IG as it does in IG-PRT.

    Should that not be :

    i would like more backtest data so am thinking of opening a PRT-IB account but want to know for certain that my tuned algo will see the data in PRT-IG as it does in IG-PRT.

    ?

    (or maybe I don’t understand ;-))

    01/11/2021 at 1:42 PM #157328
    PeterSt
    Monobrow wrote:

    if you have both, perhaps you could run a 100k bar algo backtest on both accounts and see if you get the same result?

    I have PRT-IB with (free) access to PRT-IG. I would not be able to compare anything with these too because the CFD’s etc. are too different.
    However, we would be able to compare a not-secret algo you can provide me. So you do it at your place (your mentioned IG-PRT I think) for the 100K bars and I do that for my PRT-IG (again, if I have the proper subscription).

    Correct ?

    01/11/2021 at 2:01 PM #157331
    Monobrow

    Ok, great, yes please. Ill upload an algo with results later on tonight, thanks!

    01/11/2021 at 4:20 PM #157367
    Vonasi
    PeterSt wrote:

    I pay 30 euros per month to IG. Would I apply 4 trades a month (no matter how small), the PRT Sponsored account will be free.

    The ‘no matter how small’ bit is incorrect. IG will need to see a minimum of four trades of what they deem to be sufficient size. I once had a Premium account where in one month I had opened no trades and so I just did four very quick scalps ( I think I lost just a few £). IG shut the account down for insufficient trading.

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