Strategy Hull & Angle

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    Paul
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    Here’s a lite strategy using the Hull Moving Average & the Angle based on the Hull.

    In total 2 variables and of-course a stoploss & profittarget.

    Not intended to find something perfect on 200k bars but test a few bars less, on any timeframe.

    it’s pretty good for such small code

    defparam cumulateorders = false
    
    // strategy
    Period= a1
    inner = 2*weightedaverage[round( Period/2)](typicalprice)-weightedaverage[Period](typicalprice)
    hull = weightedaverage[round(sqrt(Period))](inner)
    
    cb1 = hull > hull[1] and hull[1] < hull[2]
    cs1 = hull < hull[1] and hull[1] > hull[2]
    
    periodea      = a2
    mma = average[periodea](hull)
    adjasuroppo = (mma-mma[1])*pipsize
    angle = (atan(adjasuroppo))
    
    cb2 = angle > angle[1] and angle[1] < angle[2]
    cs2 = angle < angle[1] and angle[1] > angle[2]
    
    // conditions
    condbuy  = cb1 and cb2
    condsell = cs1 and cs2
    
    // entry
    if condbuy then
    buy 1 contract at market
    endif
    
    if condsell then
    sellshort 1 contract at market
    endif
    
    //
    set stop %loss a3
    set target %profit a3
    
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    #150860 quote
    zilliq
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    Thanks @Paul

    I did a trial on EUr/USD 1 mn as often 100 k

    Results are not bad but need some improvments

    Whats is not good:

    Too much time in the market 98.41 % (Need <20 %)

    Bad Sharpe ratio : 0.4 (Need > 1.5)

    Bad Standard deviation : 1978.74 (need < average gain )

    Too much variations in day/gain

    But I think that with some change it could be good

    Hava a nice day Paul

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    #150865 quote
    nonetheless
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    looks interesting. ran some quick tests at 5m and 15m and yes, even in this stripped down form it can turn a profit. should be useful in conjunction with other indicators, TFs etc

    thanks for that!

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    #150872 quote
    Paul
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    Hi zilliq  I think this code is exactly as short as you like to see it! However you did mention in previous topics that you add money-management & market structure (=parameters?). Indeed the time in market is too long and also the other things you mentioned. But you say that with some change it could be good,  so now i’am curious what kind of change you are thinking off. But still nice to see positive results on eurusd!

    Hi Nonetheless If you make progress using this concept in any way, i’am always interested! I will also try to expand it.

    #150876 quote
    zilliq
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    Hi @Paul it’s short and 3 variables : Perfect 😉

    The money management can be enough with stop loss

    I think it’s possible to work on the Signal part and there is no code for the Market structure (Range/Trend) to filter the Signals

    Have a nice day Paul

    #150883 quote
    eckaw
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    This is very interesting. I have tried the same concept but my code looks different. I will take a look and post if useful.


    @Zilliq
    – what would you suggest to use for market structure? I’m curious as I have been following you on the Donkey Posts.

    #151084 quote
    zilliq
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    Hi @eckaw

    In fact you can use what you want to determine the market structure (ATR, ADX, MACD and so on…) who can determine when you are in Trend, and when your are in Range

    Always a small code (The more complex is your code, the more curefit you will do, the worst OOS results you will have), never more than 3-4 parameters (Same reaosns) and so on…Always the same advices

    And you should watch some results as on the picture on an algo on which I work actually and who is in my incubator (OOS demo since 10 days)

    Small time in market, >1.5-2 Sharpe ratio, STD gain<Average gain and so on

    Have a nice day

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    #151860 quote
    FernetTrader
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    What algo is that on your last picture, @zilliq?

    #153824 quote
    Tanou
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    Nice strat @Paul, I’ll see if it can inspire / improve some of the strategies I am exploring 🙂

     

    @zilliq, what’s your code? 🙂

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    Paul
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    @Tanou I doubt he will show the full code 🙂

    About this strategy, made some changes and one part uses mtf

    runs on dow 30 seconds timeframe, with adjusted trailingstop

    thanked this post
    DJ-Hull-Angle-v4.itf
    #153844 quote
    deletedaccount051022
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    @Paul  You’re a legend, thank you for sharing  🙂

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    #153849 quote
    Tanou
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    Thanks @Paul 😉

     

    However, it doesn’t looks good… A lot of transaction for a 55% win trades and 1.09 profit… :/

    #153850 quote
    nonetheless
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    Hi Paul, thanks for the new version. I see you are sticking with the old Hull coding as in v10.3

    As I’m sure you know, “hullaverage [20] close” (for example) is recognised in v11 but it gives completely different results. I can’t say if it’s better or worse, but worth knowing that the 2 are not interchangeable.

    I’m staying with the old-style code as well, as that’s the one I know.

    #153853 quote
    Paul
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    @Tanou

    that’s no good indeed!

    It’s optimised on 100k or 200k I thought. But if loading 1 million it’s bad. Time is too short optimising such amount. The way I was trying find 1 or 2 values out of 4 with normal optimisation on say 100k and set them fixed. WF the other ones. Still it’s difficult to have a good wf results oos.

    But I tried such approach in demo after good wf results and it’s positive, but sometimes a max loss can take progress away, therefore the changed trailing stop but I haven’t run that.


    @nonetheless
    Hi, thanks for the reminder. I knew but forgot that completely! Will test too to see the differences.

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Strategy Hull & Angle


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