Here’s some more encouragement. This is last night / tonight (thus also with high spread). I have detailed one of them so you can see that it works quite well.

As you can see, it also works when losing. ;-(

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GraHal wrote:

when I refer to Live, I mostly am referring to ‘ProOrder Live‘

This is not related. Both I (and Tim) show are from the past. Live and Demo-Live would show the same. Can you show past data *without* occurred trades, be that Live or Demo-Live ? I can’t. But let me try in real-time, just for fun.

OK, first surprise is there. I fire up PRT(-IG) and no trades show anywhere. Hmm, that would be new, although … it occurred to me more often that the cart is quite “empty” at first. Thus, several trades from the past and nothing at all shows. And No, it is not the clicking on that tab we talked about the other day – that is just active. Anyway, this would incur for the same situation Tim is able to show. Not a good start (for me). But why … Anyway, see first attachment, knowing that at 22:04 a last trade occurred.

Then I’m switching on another monitor, which redundantly shows this chart as well. And what ?!? there it shows (as do numerous others).
Is it a chart setting ? … for now I am not even going to look for it. Those trades are there all the time (on the first version of the chart shown) ad I am regularly comparing Live with backtest afterwards. Like I showed yesterday …

So I am running a small backtest to see whether it makes the trade occur, but No. All what occurs is the trade of the backtest (3rd attached). It seems that the devil plays with me, as I never saw this before. That is, it never occurred to me, although again, far in the back of my head I recall the screen to be “empty” some times. Like now …
So far so good for what Tim shows (also : so far so good for what my backtest shows for the same trade on the same spot, but that is not the subject now).

Then I do rightclick in the chart area – Configure this area – and find this setting – see 4th attachment (the selected entry in the left “Overigen” would be “Others” in English). Although I talked about similar in the other topic, this one I never saw before. But it does exactly what I saw before, but not from within a setting like this one – it does not even look finished (look at the exact same screen-field names, although this may be a translation error). It is the checkbox at the mouse pointer which makes the trades occur. It is, btw, the 2nd checkbox which make the Backtest trades disappear. Quite handy ! (once you were able to find this setting).

So, wires crossed ? always.
And next I am pretty sure that this setting has to be new, and that something else makes that checkbox checked or not. So again, look at my screenshot from yesterday, while I since really never changed any setting as I was doing quite some different things. Yesterday the Live trades showed in this very same chart, today they don’t. … I can think of a reason … right now (4:30 am Amsterdam) the markets are closed. Why that chart from the 2nd attachment shows it automatically ? Hunches :

1. I created that chart only a week or so ago (after the first time the 23 Dec version was active);
2. In that chart I never clicked on the tab to let disappear the order labels (see other topic) – while I did so with the chart from the 1st attachment (while changing the higher level setting for that along the lines).

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O-M-G

Then I did rightclick – Configure this area – on that other chart, and this is the result. Only one checkbox. And to my surprise it controls …
The Live trades. Hmm …
So apparently I am able to control the Backtest results when a backtest result is there in the first place (which is there on that other chart). So wait … then I would be able to incur for more options. Let’s fire up another backtest from another strategy (a previous very similar version) …

… Et voilá. The 2nd attachment unfolds.

Now let me guess … V12 is able to replay live trades (at self-set speed). I already kind of predicted that this would also allow for replay of a kind of forward testing, or maybe even backtesting with real order labels. Of course nobody believed that -at PRT  support- but who are they, also in lack of (all ?) change logs. This mighty much looks like the preparation for that. I mean, it would not be much convenient to have all orders (from different backtest strategies – or even live strategies (!!!)) mixed in the chart, while analysing all, right ? So … so have several charts, each with its own backtest-strategy in it – or at least each with its own Live strategy in it and replay. Envision those charts next to each other, sit back and watch (and have a cigar while you smoke those anyway). Watching the past Live trades (Live or Demo-Live) will surely work like this (wanna bet ?). And btw, I have never seen V12 yet.

Up to more wires crossing, but hey … 🙂

PS: That “Orders tonen” in that setting, would not be unfinished really. It just shows in appearance of occurrence the “strategy” to show, (Demo-)Live on top, I’d say.
PPS: It really is convenient because it is now very easy to unfold differences in strategies – also vs Live by checking/unchecking the specific strategy of choice.
PPPS: Now tell me that this is in there for years an I never saw it. Haha.

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