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  • #60378

    Hello everyone, I just received this news important enough to deserve a new post.

    Automatic trading with ProOrder is now available for the “Limited Risk” accounts for Italy (since yesterday), Spain (will be activated today), Sweden (by tomorrow) and UK (most likely for next week).

    For the record, here are the constraints related to automatic trading with limited risk accounts:

    1. Stops followers: Stop followers are not allowed on limited-risk accounts
    2. Guaranteed Stops: All ProOrder protection stops are automatically converted to guaranteed stops. On this type of stop, the level of execution is guaranteed, even if the course evolves brutally against you. Special pricing applies (only if the stop is triggered)
    3. Attached Stops: A protective stop must be attached when opening a position or placing a purchase / sale order. In the code, the SET STOP pLOSS statement (for example) must not be in a condition (IF / ENDIF)
    4. Distances of stops: It is not possible to move a protection stop away from the position (ie SET STOP pLOSS x, where x variable requires never to increase x after the stop, but it can of course be brought closer to Condition to respect the minimum difference between the price and the new stoploss value)
    5. Hedging: Limited risk accounts do not allow you to be both long and short on the same value. Therefore, it is not possible:
      To have a strategy LONG and another SHORT if these strategies are launched on instruments with a common underlying (eg France 40 and France 40 mini)
      To set 2 limits of opposite direction on the same value
      To place a stop in the opposite direction to a position, between the position and its protective stop

    In addition :

    The minimum stop distances are greater than the so-called “expert” accounts (current normal account), the information of this distance can be found in the instrument’s manual trading information (expressed in points or percentage for actions ).

    Since the follower stop will not work, the SET STOP TRAILING instruction will be inoperative, so I advise you to use the coded trailing stop you find in the blog part of the site (many strategies already use it in the code library and in the forums).

    The stoploss can be far from the entry price, far enough, but you must take into account your margin required to place it (of course you can not lose more than the size of your money account, so be vigilant at Level of the stoploss).


    Feel free to ask any question, I’ll try to answer the best I can, I have a flu 🙂

    #60581

    About the margin

    With this new proposals from EMSA margin on DOW for example could be 5%?

    If you buy 1 per point on dow 26 000 the margin would be 1300

    With a guaranteed stop at 200 you only risk 200 but you need at least 1300 in the account to open the positon?

    Is this correct?

     

    #60585

    (with a guaranteed stop at 25 800)

    #61667

    So you can have one guaranteed stop loss like:

    set stop ploss 100

    and still manage exits with stop orders with coded trallingstop etc?

    but what ever happens you cant loose more than 100pips?

    regards

    Henrik

    #61688

    but what ever happens you cant loose more than 100pips?

    Right.

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    #77627

    For the record, here are the constraints related to automatic trading with limited risk accounts: Stops followers: Stop followers are not allowed on limited-risk accounts Guaranteed Stops: All ProOrder protection stops are automatically converted to guaranteed stops. On this type of stop, the level of execution is guaranteed, even if the course evolves brutally against you. Special pricing applies (only if the stop is triggered) Attached Stops: A protective stop must be attached when opening a position or placing a purchase / sale order. In the code, the SET STOP pLOSS statement (for example) must not be in a condition (IF / ENDIF) Distances of stops: It is not possible to move a protection stop away from the position (ie SET STOP pLOSS x, where x variable requires never to increase x after the stop, but it can of course be brought closer to Condition to respect the minimum difference between the price and the new stoploss value) Hedging: Limited risk accounts do not allow you to be both long and short on the same value. Therefore, it is not possible: To have a strategy LONG and another SHORT if these strategies are launched on instruments with a common underlying (eg France 40 and France 40 mini) To set 2 limits of opposite direction on the same value To place a stop in the opposite direction to a position, between the position and its protective stop In addition : The minimum stop distances are greater than the so-called “expert” accounts (current normal account), the information of this distance can be found in the instrument’s manual trading information (expressed in points or percentage for actions ). Since the follower stop will not work, the SET STOP TRAILING instruction will be inoperative, so I advise you to use the coded trailing stop you find in the blog part of the site (many strategies already use it in the code library and in the forums). The stoploss can be far from the entry price, far enough, but you must take into account your margin required to place it (of course you can not lose more than the size of your money account, so be vigilant at Level of the stoploss).

    So were the proposed changes to stops, etc (listed above) actually implemented?

    #77629

    Yes!

    #77637

    …are these changes going to be reflected in PRT demo? Because trying to test things is a waste of time otherwise….

    #77720

    It behaves the same in DEMO account, as long as you have set your IG demo account to limited risk one.

    I don’t know if IG activate it by default, so the best thing to do would be a test with a manual order and see if a stoploss is mandatory.

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