Orphan Trades on Demo Account

GraHal · 2021-07-01T17:07:47+00:00

Just found 9 (yes 9!) orphan trades on my Demo Account, don’t know how they got there! I call them orphans, as I would not have opened 9 manual trades on Demo, but neither had 9 Algo’s closed leaving orphaned trades open. They were all showing the same value minus / – £446 give or take £1 ish on each … well weird. Anybody else had similar or anybody lost 9 trades!? 🙂

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07/01/2021 at 6:07 PM #172907 quote

GraHal
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Just found 9 (yes 9!) orphan trades on my Demo Account, don’t know how they got there!

I call them orphans, as I would not have opened 9 manual trades on Demo, but neither had 9 Algo’s closed leaving orphaned trades open.

They were all showing the same value minus / – £446 give or take £1 ish on each … well weird.

Anybody else had similar or anybody lost 9 trades!? 🙂

07/01/2021 at 6:15 PM #172908 quote

robertogozzi
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The last time I happened that was about two years ago!

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07/02/2021 at 7:58 AM #172924 quote

MAKSIDE
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On my side, happened before yesterday…

moreover, i persist in saying that for a long time it’s impossible to correctly test a strategy on a demo account… (orphan trades, spread, etc, …..)

https://www.prorealcode.com/topic/ah-les-comptes-demo/

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07/02/2021 at 8:23 AM #172925 quote

GraHal
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MAKSIDE wrote:

it’s impossible to correctly test a strategy on a demo account

Surely a Demo Forward Test / Live running in Demo is a good test? Spread is the same as Live and folks have had orphans even on Live Accounts / Live running.

It would be good if – on backtest – errors showed up … divide by zero, negative parameters etc?

07/02/2021 at 8:32 AM #172928 quote

MAKSIDE
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Never had the case in live.. and if it is the case, it’s really serious !

i don’t think this is always the case for the spread.. SL that was taken on Demo and not on Live account (same bot.. ) , etc…

07/03/2021 at 6:36 PM #173067 quote

TempusFugit
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Grahal, I have just checked and no orphans in my demo account. I don´t remember to have any orphan in Demo, maybe but I don´t remember. I do remember to have one in real some years ago, I remember it well because it scared me a lot that something like that could happen more but it never happened again.

I agree with Makside that Demo doesn´t work very well for testing systems, lot of errors wich I don´t know the cause and doesn´t happen in real and differences in orden execution. Another difference that bother me because I think it could be easily fixed is that they don´t have the same minimun position required for each active. For instance in DAX-Real is 0.5 and DAX-Demo is 1. Also they don´t react the same when this minimun is not reached, if I remember well in demo the order goes with the minimun and in real the system gives error and stop. I guess this doesn´t matter to many people because they use a fixed number of contracts but I work with differences in positionsize and is very annoying

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07/05/2021 at 3:57 AM #173125 quote

David
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Disappointing to read these instances still occur.

I remember this happened on a live account for me and the response from PRT was very unprofessional and even IG wasn’t able explain the response and even after I asked for further clariffication.

If you would like to see what they wrote to me let me know but once you read it you cannot unsee it.
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