How To Keep Scale On Different Time Frame

• 03/08/2024 at 10:55 PM #229502
  Andre36

  So, I’ve been trying to figure out how to keep the chart scaling the same when I switch time frames but it just resets/reverts back to the default zoom scale, which is too wide (or too small depending on how you look at it). This takes me way off what I’m analysing and I have to keep zooming back in each time I switch time frames. Is there a way to keep the zoom scale in different time frames if you want to please?

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  03/09/2024 at 5:26 AM #229505
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  Hi Andre – No, not that I know of. But since PRT will remember the zoom scale per chart at restarts of the platform :

  Create two charts for it and let have each its own zoom scale you want.

  If you want to analyse different Instruments (ask for others in your chart(s)) you can use the Link button/icon you see below; open the two charts from Search where  you closed the Link icon like you see in the first picture, open two charts with also the closed Link icon, and from now on always two charts will open from the source (e.g. my Main Menu example) the charts are asked for.

  With the Premium version you can do this several times with several purposes from several sources, because you can have more Link Colors (like you see in my first picture). I myself always use three different number of units and zoom levels in 3 linked charts, of which you see two in the 2nd picture. The one has 1 Day and 1k units, the other 1 hour and 2 k units. Both have been zoomed by me to the viewport I like to see for each, and this always sustains. Thus also when I ask for a new Instrument by means of the source I use for it.

  Lastly, in the third picture you see a List with again that closed Link icon with the same color (grey). So if I pick an Instrument from that source, they again appear in my three charts with the different zoom levels.

  The other charts I have on screen with open Link icon (example in 4th picture) always stay put no matter what I ask from the sources with closed Link icon.
  And when you’d have PRT Premium you can create all sorts of nice sets of charts which don’t influence each other. Or, if you on ad-hoc basis change the link color of the source (like my Search box), you’d direct the result to that other set of charts.

  Oh, the “directing” works both ways (all ways) and might you ask for a different instrument via the chart itself (like the drop down of XAUUSD you see in the 2nd picture, all linked charts will change as well. What you actually did, was changing the source to the drop down.

  I think it is one of the most powerful features of PRT which – I am afraid – only few people know or understand intuitively; You will see that it is not easy to get going what I just described, until you get the hang and feel of it.

  Have fun now !
  Peter

   

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  03/09/2024 at 1:31 PM #229522
  druby

  hi…andre

  If I understading the problem right, your using 1 chart and changing the timeframe, and the previous timeframe used, which you zoomed in on, has reverting back to default zoom size when you go back.

  The way I would do this, which thinking about it, would work quite well on a laptop where too many windows, visible at one time, would become too small and hard to read.

  #Peter, ‘frames’ the way forward in ‘time’!

  Set the ‘link chain’ of your chart to… ‘Set as main chart’ for ‘Link by instrument’…

  Create duplicate chart(s) and set each to require timeframe(s).

  Place all these same charts with there different timeframes directly on top of each other so it looks like only 1 chart and you can only see the top chart’s timeframe.

  Now when you want to go to a different timeframe, instead of  changing the timeframe of the chart, go to the,  (assuming windows OS) windows task bar, hover over the PRT icon,  and a list of the PRT windows will appear,(maybe its the same on Mac).

  Choose the timeframe chart you want next from the list, which will now appear on top. Repeat when changing back and forth.

  Now after you have zoomed about on a timeframe, when you go back, it will be as you left it, and since linking the charts, choosing another instrument uses the same current zoomed level.

  If you need different zoom levels on timeframe but with different instuments, then just create new charts and link, dropping the new chart on top  and choosing them from list. Since your only looking at one chart at a time, it won’t matter if they are all on same instrument. Just need to remember which one they are in the list.

  Only down side I can think of is more windows running and more indicators.  But may not be a big problem!

  Also, you can find the list of charts from PRT main menu bar, Display, Charts and change them from there however, seems slower because of some aninmation etc when changing.

  Other things of interest are:

  Using multiple’s of the units, relative to the different timeframes, makes the xy scales similar between the charts at default zoom level  (4hr @25u, 15m @400u, 5m @1200u, 1m @ 6000u) etc.

  Also after zooming in on a timeframe, you can revert back to the default zoom level by double left clicking on both the x and y scale axis. Or revert by either the x or y individually.

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  03/09/2024 at 2:03 PM #229524
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  Hi druby,

  Yes, your idea is nice, but would not work for me. Below is a snippet from my current 45 or so Charts (and Lists, etc.) and at the top and the bottom you see BTSUSD. Both have the same TF but a different number of units and zoom level you can’t see here. Same with your first idea.
  Additionally the ~45 Charts etc. incur for a scroll arrow at the bottom. So not all is in view.

  The 2nd picture concerns your first solution, and you see it is the same there (but the list is more limited because it comprises of charts only). Anyway, I can’t choose.

  Of course this is my personal situation (too many screens ? and thus also Charts etc.).

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  In the 3rd picture you see another reason for having two (or more) Charts with a different timeframe (which always also incorporates dedicated zoom levels). This is just real time observation of the rougher TF (right side) and the current action in detail (left side). This, however, is unrelated to having the charts linked because this is set once and is there forever. Here too the Charts overlay, and in the 4th picture you can see how both remain selectable at all times, also knowing that the larger (wider for time period) Chart is there anyway, so why not overlay that with a smaller Chart of the same, with higher frequency TF and smaller time period as well. See at the mouse pointer where the other Chart still can be selected.

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  03/09/2024 at 7:16 PM #229538
  Andre36

  PeterSt wrote:

  Hi Andre – No, not that I know of. But since PRT will remember the zoom scale per chart at restarts of the platform :

  Create two charts for it and let have each its own zoom scale you want.

  If you want to analyse different Instruments (ask for others in your chart(s)) you can use the Link button/icon you see below; open the two charts from Search where you closed the Link icon like you see in the first picture, open two charts with also the closed Link icon, and from now on always two charts will open from the source (e.g. my Main Menu example) the charts are asked for.

  With the Premium version you can do this several times with several purposes from several sources, because you can have more Link Colors (like you see in my first picture). I myself always use three different number of units and zoom levels in 3 linked charts, of which you see two in the 2nd picture. The one has 1 Day and 1k units, the other 1 hour and 2 k units. Both have been zoomed by me to the viewport I like to see for each, and this always sustains. Thus also when I ask for a new Instrument by means of the source I use for it.

  Lastly, in the third picture you see a List with again that closed Link icon with the same color (grey). So if I pick an Instrument from that source, they again appear in my three charts with the different zoom levels.

  The other charts I have on screen with open Link icon (example in 4th picture) always stay put no matter what I ask from the sources with closed Link icon.

  And when you’d have PRT Premium you can create all sorts of nice sets of charts which don’t influence each other. Or, if you on ad-hoc basis change the link color of the source (like my Search box), you’d direct the result to that other set of charts.

  Oh, the “directing” works both ways (all ways) and might you ask for a different instrument via the chart itself (like the drop down of XAUUSD you see in the 2nd picture, all linked charts will change as well. What you actually did, was changing the source to the drop down.

  I think it is one of the most powerful features of PRT which – I am afraid – only few people know or understand intuitively; You will see that it is not easy to get going what I just described, until you get the hang and feel of it.

  Have fun now !

  Peter

  Hey Peter, thank you so much! I agree PRT is a powerful platform, I think it’s better than TV in a lot of ways and has so much potential if only the little bugs could be ironed out. Anyhoo, I have the Complete version so I don’t have the option of selecting various chart groups, only two. I have two monitors at the moment, one which I use to view multiple timeframes and the other for looking at my entry and general navigating. As I’m backtesting at the moment, PRT doesn’t allow me to create Lists but this is another idea I didn’t think of with the lists and I’ll consider utilising it in real time. For now, it looks like i’ll have to either create multiple charts with different zoom scales on my selected time frames or just zoom to my selected points. No real biggie, just cuts down on the flow a little. Cheers for your reply and suggestions.

  

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  03/09/2024 at 7:38 PM #229539
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  druby wrote:

  hi…andre

  If I understading the problem right, your using 1 chart and changing the timeframe, and the previous timeframe used, which you zoomed in on, has reverting back to default zoom size when you go back.

  The way I would do this, which thinking about it, would work quite well on a laptop where too many windows, visible at one time, would become too small and hard to read.

  #Peter, ‘frames’ the way forward in ‘time’!

  Set the ‘link chain’ of your chart to… ‘Set as main chart’ for ‘Link by instrument’…

  Create duplicate chart(s) and set each to require timeframe(s).

  Place all these same charts with there different timeframes directly on top of each other so it looks like only 1 chart and you can only see the top chart’s timeframe.

  Now when you want to go to a different timeframe, instead of changing the timeframe of the chart, go to the, (assuming windows OS) windows task bar, hover over the PRT icon, and a list of the PRT windows will appear,(maybe its the same on Mac).

  Choose the timeframe chart you want next from the list, which will now appear on top. Repeat when changing back and forth.

  Now after you have zoomed about on a timeframe, when you go back, it will be as you left it, and since linking the charts, choosing another instrument uses the same current zoomed level.

  If you need different zoom levels on timeframe but with different instuments, then just create new charts and link, dropping the new chart on top and choosing them from list. Since your only looking at one chart at a time, it won’t matter if they are all on same instrument. Just need to remember which one they are in the list.

  Only down side I can think of is more windows running and more indicators. But may not be a big problem!

  Also, you can find the list of charts from PRT main menu bar, Display, Charts and change them from there however, seems slower because of some aninmation etc when changing.

  Other things of interest are:

  Using multiple’s of the units, relative to the different timeframes, makes the xy scales similar between the charts at default zoom level (4hr @25u, 15m @400u, 5m @1200u, 1m @ 6000u) etc.

  Also after zooming in on a timeframe, you can revert back to the default zoom level by double left clicking on both the x and y scale axis. Or revert by either the x or y individually.

  druby

  Exactly Druby! …and yes! This is what I’ve decided to do, Peter more or less mention the same work around. I don’t mind this – having multiple charts with the zoom levels. I have a second monitor for different chart time frames so this is a fine workaround for me. I don’t use more than 6 different timeframes with the higher time frames I only look at once so it’s fine for me. Thank you so much for your reply.

  

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