DAX EMA Cross-over decimal level

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  • #55047

    Hi Nicolas

    I am interested in trend-following the DAX on IG using PRC using a 5 minute timeframe using couple moving averages.

    My main issue is that on PRT it goes to 5 decimal places when a MA value is displayed. Hence a cross-over is activated even if one MA value is just say 0.1

    For example on the DAX you often get, what I call a ‘touch/kiss’ of moving averages, so technically a cross-over has occurred, but at a level in my opinion, of <0.5 is irrelevant: I would not want to exit this trade, I would want to stay in, till the next 5 minute candle has finished. That candle may indeed confirm that I do have to exit that trade and open a new trade but also often, the trade carries on in the same direction. The result here is that we do not have to exit and then re-enter the trade, which can cost us quite a bit sometimes. I need the code to reflect this difference of at least 0.5 before we exit that trade and re-enter a new one. I have actually attached a picture of a DAX screenshot (red arrow) of a typical MA ‘touch/kiss’ on November 14th, these happen at least 3 times per week on a 5 min chart. The majority of these are ‘false’ cross-overs i.e. the trade is still going in your desired direction, but the PRC would activate and you’d have to exit and then re-enter, so costing you points.

    I really do hope you can help !

    OSCARDAX / UK

     

     

     

     

    #55102
    Leo

    you can use a bollinger band with a very narrow width betwwen bands.

    #55201

    Thanks for that but I want to keep it as simple as possible, once you start adding indicators there is no end to it really. 

    #55203

    One possibility is to take the high of the candle (or low for short) when the cross over takes place as the trigger.

    #55224

    When the croosing happens you can decide to ignore it, till the next event, if the difference between the two MAs is less than “n” pips!

    Roberto

    #55230

    Hi Roberto,

    Thanks for your comment, but I want the rule to be based upon the difference between the moving averages themselves and not the actual price / pips. The reason I say this is that often you will get a price ‘spurt’ up or down within a certain timeframe but that is strictly that, a temporary phenomenon, the price then carries on doing what it was doing. I think the worse thing is that you exit because of say ‘n pips crossover’ and guess what….the actual MA itself – because its an average – stays in the same position. You have now exited the trade because of a price jump, but the MA is still in the same direction ! the psychological impact on you as a MACO trader will not be good, you’ll be kicking yourself. IMHO me personally, I have to stick to the core principle and that’s the average price and not the actual.

    As always in trading we need to think of our mindsets and not just the outcome itself….

    OSCARDAX

     

     

    #55472

    Please try with this modified code and give feedbacks here:

    Before entering a new trade, the code checks if we are actually on market or not. At the beginning of the code, orders are closed accordingly to the 0.5 points MA differences if a new MA cross over/under has occurred. 

    #55488

    Hi Roberto, Thanks for your comment, but I want the rule to be based upon the difference between the moving averages themselves and not the actual price / pips. The reason I say this is that often you will get a price ‘spurt’ up or down within a certain timeframe but that is strictly that, a temporary phenomenon, the price then carries on doing what it was doing. I think the worse thing is that you exit because of say ‘n pips crossover’ and guess what….the actual MA itself – because its an average – stays in the same position. You have now exited the trade because of a price jump, but the MA is still in the same direction ! the psychological impact on you as a MACO trader will not be good, you’ll be kicking yourself. IMHO me personally, I have to stick to the core principle and that’s the average price and not the actual. As always in trading we need to think of our mindsets and not just the outcome itself…. OSCARDAX

    Moving averages by themselves DON’T exist. They always represent price. If, at the closing of a bar, average[10] is 12300 and average[20] is 12295 the difference can only be measured using price or pips (they are the same thing, only expressed in different ways).

     

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