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    GraHal
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    Maybe we are not realistic when we expect high gains as we see in backtest as they have been curve fitted to waves other than 10 sec TF?

    If we trade DJI at 0.2 size on 10 seconds TF then the strategy should exit at about £10 / 50 points tops, probably more like £6 / 30 points gain?

    My view is that if we trade the 5 sec or 10 sec then we are trading very short term waves of about 5 mins tops?

    Trades on 10 sec TF that stay open for  > 5 mins are probably not really based on a 10 sec TF strategy??

    We need trades to open, ideally straight into profit after making up the spread and then at first sign of a pullback on 10 sec TF we need to exit?

    #130092 quote
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    You’re probably right. That would be a proper scalping approach. With this one, the TS goes to breakeven at about 17 points, but maybe it could benefit from some other exit condition? I tried that with the longer TFs and there was no gain, but could be a good idea at sub 1m. Either fixed amount in the TP, or any reversal of a v fast MA ?

    #130101 quote
    deleted23092025
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    Yeah.. Tell me if you guys modify it for this week somehow, I feel its hard.

    #130102 quote
    Francesco
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    About that, i invite you to follow the ScalpMaster topic… news coming in the next days 🙂

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    @francesco — too true. These things (micro-trend) have a perverse appeal but may be total fantasy. TBH, one of the reasons I posted it was to show how easy it is to get those kind of results … for a week. Running this same system (Corona) across different TFs I think the optimum may be 2m, but until we get v11, that’s still only a 1 year back test. For now I’m concentrating on the 5m zone.

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    I’m afraid that v11 only a dream will remain for a long time 🙂

    #130105 quote
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    I feel its hard

    Actually it’s not … and you’ll have to learn it sooner or later. Read the whole thread so you understand the logic of what it’s doing, esp @Jan’s part which is the heart of it. Then start with the Corona OTD.itf which has all the variables in the optimisation box ready to go. Facilissimo.

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    GraHal
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    Either fixed amount in the TP, or any reversal of a v fast MA ?

    Both sound like good ideas, esp the very fast MA as that allows for if we hit lucky and we are surfing a bigger wave?? 🙂

    I have been thinking lately about trades only opening at multiples of 5 mins … when conditions are also met of course? A strategy may stand a better chance of going into early profit due to plenty of Algos from the professionals likely running on 5 min TF?

    I’ve noticed an odd phenomenon lately, at 10 to the hour there seems a lot of action / volatility?  Not every hour, but 11:50, 12:50 bit less so, 14:50, 15:50 and 20:50 (not every day, but more often than random).

    I wonder if @Vonasi has ever done one of his excellent comprehensive studies on such tactics??    🙂

    Just a few thoughts anyway.

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    deleted23092025
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    Maybe putting in a lower sl? I feel like its good as im saying but idk about the big drawdowns. If you geniouses find something out tell me.

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    Also all losses so far is on short trades if you would want to know.

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    I wonder if @vonasi has ever done one of his excellent comprehensive studies on such tactics??

    You would have to exactly define ‘a lot of action / volatility’ and then analyzing it is not so difficult. Our main problem is the lack of historical data on fast time frames which means that we are only really analyzing a very small data sample as there are not that many ten to the hours on a five minute chart.

    With arrays in v11 it would be very easy but at we might have to wait for IG to sign up so we can get more than end of day easily.

    Perhaps there is a lot of activity because there are a lot of people who trade hour and 4 hour charts and when it gets near to the close of the candle perhaps they get a bit twitchy and close their trade early to lock in a profit or to stop a loss from being any bigger than it currently is.

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    ArnoldB
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    I believe we are all waiting for the new features of PRT v11 !! I think that the algorithms that we are developing will be able to make a qualitative leap, in particular with much wider access to historical data.

    #130299 quote
    GraHal
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    Anybody trading the DJ 10s Corona on 10 seconds and getting better results than attached DJ 10s Corona running on 2 min TF?? 🙂

    Pos Size = 0.2 so £10.95 Av Gain per Trade to directly compare with Pos Size = 1

    spread = 4

    Corona-2.jpg Corona-2.jpg Corona.jpg Corona.jpg DJ-M2-Corona.itf
    #130304 quote
    GraHal
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    Re above … I didn’t change anything or optimise for 2 mins TF btw … I just backtested straight off.

    Oh I changed the Timeframe to default that’s all!

    So it might auger well for a more predictable performance?

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    Is that with 6m in the top TF?

    2m is a really good TF for this, i’ve been working on that today and would have something to post if it didn’t keep crashing on me. 🤬

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Optimization moving average crossing strategy


ProOrder: Automated Strategies & Backtesting

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